Doctor Doom vs. Darth Vader

[Kevin Scrivner]

Two vengeful sorcerors mangled by accidents, encased in powered armor, driven by iron WILL, seeking total domination, armed with hi-tech weaponry.

So, who's the man YOU love to hate?

[Ghost Archer]

While Dr. Doom is the architype for Dr. Destroyer and Darth Vader is by far the most powerful, I prefer Dr. Destroyer, the OLD Dr. Destroyer.

[ch0wyunf47]

I'm down with Dr. Doom mostly because of that insane Kool Kieth record. That, and he was uber-cheesy in MvC2 :D

[Bartman]

When I was 5 years old I went to see Star Wars. After a great opening battle sequence, we see a large man in black armor. Initial thought: "This must be the bad guy." His first action is to lift a guy up by the neck, interegate him, snap his neck, and toss him aside like a rag doll. Even at 5 I knew this guy was definately not someone I wanted meet. Even today that impression is still with me. Vader is a truely screwed up monstosity. He has the attitude and power.

[Asperion]

I truely have only one armored villain that I believe that if they should be granted the world it should be Dr. Doom. That is because not only does he possess the raw power to successfully pull it off, he also has the intelligence to pull several extremely good tricks on our heros that they most likely would never truely figure out and he even has several tricks already planned for if (when) they ever do manage to determine exactly what is going on. Simply looking back at several of his schemes that he had tried in the past makes one find out just how clever and enegimatic Doom can truely be. Plus (especially when his own power is in question) he has shown that he is willing to play the part of the hero. Not one of the others are willing to do this for any reason.

[wcw43921]

The problem with Doctor Doom is that over the years he's racked up a string of successive losses that's only been exceeded by Charlie Brown's baseball team.

And noy only does Darth Vader have the technological might of the Empire backing him up, he also has The Force--albeit The Dark Side. How can the brilliance of Doom or the malevolence of Destroyer contend against someone who can throttle them from long distance? What weapon could they wield that is capable of defeating a lightsaber? What minions could they summon that could outmatch Vader's squadrons of TIE fighters, or legions of stormtroopers?

Of all the big-bads in the poll, Darth Vader is the biggest and the baddest. By Far.

[Agent X]

Originally posted by wcw43921
The problem with Doctor Doom is that over the years he's racked up a string of successive losses that's only been exceeded by Charlie Brown's baseball team.

And noy only does Darth Vader have the technological might of the Empire backing him up, he also has The Force--albeit The Dark Side. How can the brilliance of Doom or the malevolence of Destroyer contend against someone who can throttle them from long distance? What weapon could they wield that is capable of defeating a lightsaber? What minions could they summon that could outmatch Vader's squadrons of TIE fighters, or legions of stormtroopers?

Of all the big-bads in the poll, Darth Vader is the biggest and the baddest. By Far. Dr. Doom is a very powerful sorceror who prefers not to use sorcery. Vader's Mind Tricks and Telekinetic Indirect Attacks would be easily countered by Doom. Doom flies, fires energy blasts at will, etc. For Vader, Doom would have to be willing to stay on the ground. Doom wouldn't do that.

[The Maxx]

Originally posted by wcw43921
The problem with Doctor Doom is that over the years he's racked up a string of successive losses that's only been exceeded by Charlie Brown's baseball team.

And noy only does Darth Vader have the technological might of the Empire backing him up, he also has The Force--albeit The Dark Side. How can the brilliance of Doom or the malevolence of Destroyer contend against someone who can throttle them from long distance? What weapon could they wield that is capable of defeating a lightsaber? What minions could they summon that could outmatch Vader's squadrons of TIE fighters, or legions of stormtroopers?

Of all the big-bads in the poll, Darth Vader is the biggest and the baddest. By Far.

I personally would stick to my guns and side with Dr. Destroyer, or Dr. Doom if I must. Simply based on one fact in their respective fashions of dealing with the likes of Vader and his empire. Time Travel, advanced sciences, and unlike Vader, I know Destroyer has the capacity to eliminate the population of an entire planet and leave the planet's resources untouched [for the most part] as opposed to simply blowing the planet to smithereens. And as far as one of the other ways that Destroyer and Doom coul deal with Vader would be the plentiful use of robotic decoys. Basically both Destroyer and Doom would be able to use their superscience to thwart Vader at every turn. i.e. lightsaber- magnetically confined & controlled plasma field, insert a little wonderous device cobbled together at the lab and magnetic field goes bye-bye and lightsaber goes boom! vs. Tiefighters a device that could mess with the power system, control systems, the pilots themselves, etc... And for the legions of Stormtroopers I'd simply refer you the opening scenes of the first LOTR showing Sauron fighting whole armies practically by himself. And I doubt that either Doom or Destroyer would have fear of losing his fingers.

[Enforcer84]

I pick Destroyer only because Marvel down plays Doom's powerlevel

[Lord Liaden]

There are several differences between Darth Vader and the other psycopaths listed on this poll, but let me just bring up the one that is most telling to me: The others are rulers and conquerors, or aspire to be and have plans to achieve that. Vader is a minion. A powerful and important minion, perhaps with ambitions to be more, but he willingly serves Emperor Palpatine. In the first film he also appears to be outranked by Mof Tarkan as well. The military forces that he commands serve the Emperor, not Vader directly.

My vote has to go to Doctor Doom. In his time he has conquered the world (and lost it, admittedly, on more than one occasion), bested gods, mastered science to a degree rivalled by few, as well as gaining proficiency in sorcery. While there are some villains who surpass him in raw power, there is no more subtle behind-the-scenes manipulator.

Has he failed in his schemes? Yes, many times, as is typical for a comic-book villain who's been around so long. May I point out that Darth Vader was unable to crush the rebellion against the Empire despite having its vast resources behind him. He also failed to seduce his own son over to the Dark Side.

And is there anyone who seriously believes that the look of Darth Vader did not draw considerable inspiration from Doctor Doom?

[Kevin Scrivner]

I vote for the good (?) Doctor. Darth Vader is an entertaining villain but he simply isn't in Doom's league. Compare their opponents. Vader outwitted and terrorized a small band of (mostly) normal spacers. Doctor Doom has sparred successfully with whole teams of superheroes: Avengers, Fantastic Four, X-Men. He even bested the Beyonder. As to the hired help, Imperial Stormtroopers would be no match for Latverian robotic troops, not to mention Doom's cadre of robot doubles.

Doom's appearance may have been one inspiration for Vader's but a more direct influence was probably The Lightning, a mad scientist mastermind from the 1940 movie serial "Fighting Devil Dogs." That memorable bad guy sported a black face-concealing helmet, insulated jumpsuit, and cape. He also had a super weapon, electrified shells capable of frying entire city blocks.

[megaplayboy]

I voted for Muerte--if there's one thing worse than a megalomaniacal ex-Nazi, it's a wannabe who scars himself to be like his 'idol';)

[The Monster]

No contest: Doom. Period. More brains. More class. More subtle. More honorable (well, in that villainish way...).
No one compares.

[Asperion]

There is none better the the esteemed Dr. Victor Von Doom! So you have millions of stormtroopers, AT-ATs, AT-STs, TIEs, and other forces to send against Doom. They will have to get past all of his robots, natural and man-made obsticles, all of the wandering bands that are always around, and any other problem that would come up. As far as the Force goes, it has nothing compared to the dual sorcery and magic at his command. Doom has the ability to rival the greatest sorcers and inventers on the entire planet. The combined might of those devices may be able to defeat the most powerful ships of normal humans, but Doom is not mere human to deal with. Vader was defeated by the actions of one normal, yet powerful, human. Doom has been able to defeat Galatic Entities!! As far as the others go, they are nothing more than imitators or the esteemed Dr. Victor Von Doom.

[death tribble]

Make mine Doom.

He outclasses and outthinks even himself.

[GenreFiend]

Recently, Doom turned his back on science to fully embrace sorcery. He made himself a new suit of leather armor from the skin of his dead ex-lover! Whom, by the way, he sacrificed to demonic powers in return for increasing his magical might. He then possessed Valeria Richards, sent Franklin Richards to Hell, and set up a magical dome around Latveria which disabled all technology within it. Oh, he also sent some of his new, magical minions to keep Dr. Strange too busy to interfere with him. And when the FF showed up to confront him, he toyed with them as though they were nothing. Yes, he was finally defeated, but it took Reed Richards resorting to magic himself (with a great deal of help from Strange), to do it.
But what really makes Doom so much cooler than all the others on this survey: his people love him. The citizens of Latveria are truely happy and prosperous, and that is what makes Doom the coolest villain in armor!

[Lord Liaden]

I was not aware of any of these developments re Dr. Doom. At the moment my only response is :eek: :eek: :eek:

[SuperPheemy]

Though Von Doom will always hold a soft spot in my heart, I have to go with Vader. It's the respirator coupled with James Earl Jones' voice. Besides, ol' Darth's been my hero since I was seven. I didn't meed Doc Doom until High School.

[GenreFiend]

Originally posted by Lord Liaden
I was not aware of any of these developments re Dr. Doom. At the moment my only response is :eek: :eek: :eek:

It was the most recent story-arc in which he was involved, culminating in FF # 500. I think the story's title was "Unthinkable." Which pretty much describes Doom's actions.