Where do gangsters get pool babes?

[moquif]

I figure this is the best place to ask. In the 80s TV shows and movies showed gangsters, drug dealers, and assorted powerful criminal types lounging around a pool with a dozen or so women in bikinis sunning themselves, swimming, and lounging around.

So who hired them? Was there an application? Do they get a salary with benefits? Was there a sheet on the bulletin board at a strip club? "Wanted, attractive women 18-24 to sit around pool and make boss feel important despite being on his 3rd by-pass surgery and needing heart medication. Non-disclosure agreement mandatory. Good pay. Dental and cosmetic surgery covered. No law enforcement or brunettes. Equal Opportunity Employer."

Seriously though, I saw the Bond films and A-team episodes and wondered how those women got there.

[dmjalund]

some women are attracted to bad-boys. Some are attracted to power. Some are attracted to the kind of money these guys throw around. Some are attracted to the drugs.

[Spence]

some women are attracted to bad-boys. Some are attracted to power. Some are attracted to the kind of money these guys throw around. Some are attracted to the drugs.


Or simply, if you throw $1000's of dollars away for pool parties daily, you too will have dozens of the low in intelligence, high in attractiveness hanging around too.

PS I'm not saying good looking means low intelligence or stupid. I'm saying that in a population numbered in the millions, there are enough stupid but gorgeous women to fill the dance card ;)

[sinanju]

People with lots of money, at least those who are willing to flash it conspicuously and throw it around, attract hangers-on. Nobody has as many "friends" as someone with plenty of cash he's willing to part with. He'll have people offering him services and business opportunities of every conceivable sort, as well as an endless supply of people willing to hang around his house/mansion/club/pool and drink his booze, snort his drugs, eat his food, warm his bed, etc. as long as the money (or the things money can buy--clothes, cars, food, drugs, booze, etc) keep coming.

When the money dries up, all those "friends" will disappear, moving on to their next meal ticket. This is one of the ways that people who come into fortunes suddenly (the lottery, or by hitting it big in music, sports, crime or some other field) can go from rags to riches to rags so quickly. There are a lot of parasites out there who will gladly bleed you dry if they can. Including gorgeous young women who will trade their beauty (and often sex) for the aforesaid drugs, booze, etc.)

Hence, the pool girls.

[Karmakaze]

They're probably just hangers-on. They turn up when there's a party and the attractive ones are allowed in. The ones who hang out at the villain's secret base may be harder to explain.

If the villain hasn't had time to develop a reputation, but needs women around as props, then they probably just called an escort agency.

[Sociotard]

Well, there is the "TV reality vs our reality problem". I have no idea how accurate "A-Team" was, but I'm guessing not very.

I do know of one instance of intentionally stocking a party with beautiful women. Muammar Gaddafi, an important man in Libya, put out a request to a hostess agency for 500 beautiful young women. He only got 200. Essentially, he put out an ad and promised €50 for showing up.


When the hostess agency put out the call for attractive, well-dressed women, under the age of 35 and over 1.7 metres (5ft 7in) tall, it was inundated with responses from hundreds of Roman women.

Most seemed to think they would be bringing a little glamour to a gala dinner with the Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi. Instead, they found themselves being lectured by him for two hours on the role of women and invited to convert to Islam. "We were at least expecting a snack", grumbled Silvia Figliozzi afterwards.

[lapsedgamer]

I can't imagine that it's a very good career path.

"Originally, I was hired as a pool babe, but then they had an opening as a henchman. They were like, but we never had a female henchman before. I showed them that I had a black belt in karate and a lot of experience with guns and getaway driving, but they still weren't having it. Eventually, I threatened them with a lawsuit. Do you know that they had several henchmen who had no formal training at all? Some of those guys were so lame that I can see why the boss was always killing them when they messed up. Anyway, I caught the boss' eye, and he moved me up to Lieutenant. I just had to get an eyepatch and work on my menacing gestures and threats. He wanted me to stand out when the heroes were around and threaten their families and stuff. So far it's great. I even have my own theme music now. It's not long, just a few chords, but how cool is that? I'm only worried because the guy who had the gig before me died fighting some schmuck on top of a crane or something. It pays well, but no one seems to last more than a couple of years. My mom hates it. She says I should have just been a gun moll like she was back in the day."

[Epiphanis]

Attractive hangers-on are extremely easy to attract, provided you have the means to do so. In NYC, where I live, they are practically a subculture unto themselves. Go to trendy dance clubs, flash the cash, buy lots of overpriced drinks for the ones that catch your eye, and pretty much anybody can summon a bevy of hot babes to anything. It has its downside, but the hanger-on party lifestyle has some amazing advantages.

Years ago when I was going to law school, one of my classmates was a former showgirl from the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. She and her fellow dancers were regularly invited to Trump corporate parties where they served as window dressing (and probably less officially encouraged to provide other services as well, but it was impolitic to ask). She later decided on a career change, bought a house and went to law school, paying for both in their entirety up front and in cash.

Being a hanger-on can be extremely lucrative--while it lasts, which is generally about a ten-year window from 20 to 30. As "party" lifestyles with an excess of disposable income and free time, alcoholism and drug abuse become real pitfalls, but many can and have done extremely well living this life. It is a great way to "network" for certain more "legitimate" careers and often segues into successful careers in entertainment, public relations, and journalism, all of which depend on social skills and a broad base of contacts and tend to travel in the same circles. Women are often drawn from these pools for jobs as executive assistants and receptionists for very upscale corporate culture; if they have brains or skills beyond their looks they often parlay this foot-in-the-door into successful careers in corporate America (they may suffer from the "glass ceiling" at the upper levels, but they have a distinct advantage at entry level).

[McCoy]

Gangsters have money.

Producers smooze people with money.

Producers have access to actresses and would-be actresses.

"You've got the audition tomorrow, but you need to get some sun today. Take your suit and hang out at the pool at this address. Be nice to the guy with the broken nose, I'm counting on him to finance a future project that will need someone in the staring role."

[megaplayboy]

Gangsters(that is, crime lords) have a certain charisma to them, an ability to hold the loyalty and respect of their lieutenants and henchmen, and some probably even have a certain superficial charm. Throw in that they have money and connections(to the entertainment industry, to all manner of drug merchants, perhaps even to the fashion industry) and it's not hard to understand where "pool babes", who get to lounge around a giant home, sun and swim, with access to all the fancy clothes, cars, jewelry and drugs they could ever desire, could come from.

[moquif]

Well, there is the "TV reality vs our reality problem". I have no idea how accurate "A-Team" was, but I'm guessing not very.

I do know of one instance of intentionally stocking a party with beautiful women. Muammar Gaddafi, an important man in Libya, put out a request to a hostess agency for 500 beautiful young women. He only got 200. Essentially, he put out an ad and promised €50 for showing up.
The question has less to do with Real World reality as it does with Game World "reality"; a world where a bunch of vigilantes can kill dozens of criminals and no one seems to mind and where the job title of Henchman is more commonplace.

[Kraven Kor]

Now, better question, how does one become the gangster with said pool babes?

What? Why is everyone looking at me like that? ;)

[Shadow Hawk]

Now, better question, how does one become the gangster with said pool babes?

What? Why is everyone looking at me like that? ;)

Actually, the question is can one get said pool babes without being a gangster?

[Escafarc]

Actually, the question is can one get said pool babes without being a gangster?

Ask Teh Bunneh.

[teh bunneh]

Ask Teh Bunneh.

Are you implying that I'm not a gangsta?

[Marcus Impudite]

The ones who hang out at the villain's secret base may be harder to explain.

Those would be the villain's kept women. If it means living a life of leisure and luxury on their sugar daddy's dime, they're perfectly willing to turn a blind eye to just about anything that goes on.

[megaplayboy]

Actually, the question is can one get said pool babes without being a gangster?

Secret ID: Hugh Hefner+
10 points of wealth+
points for Base: Playboy Mansion--the pool babes arguably "come with the mansion".

Of course, at this point, one would also have to take DF: Creepy old man.

[Shadow Hawk]

Secret ID: Hugh Hefner+
10 points of wealth+
points for Base: Playboy Mansion--the pool babes arguably "come with the mansion".

Of course, at this point, one would also have to take DF: Creepy old man.

Meanwhile, the lounge TV is telling me that Hefner is getting married again. To another centerfold.

[megaplayboy]

Meanwhile, the lounge TV is telling me that Hefner is getting married again. To another centerfold.

Let's see, she's 24 and he's 84. Her mother could be 42, her grandmother 60. He's old enough to be her great-grandfather. Either she's resolutely digging for buried treasure, or she has serious "grand-daddy" issues, or both.

Or maybe it's True Love...
:rofl:

[death tribble]

Are you implying that I'm not a gangsta?

No one is implying you are not gangsta. We're just stating it as a fact.

[Matt the Bruins]

Actually, the question is can one get said pool babes without being a gangster?A friend of mine could, but he was a professional athlete who looked like this at the time:

37703

I think becoming a gangster is a more achievable option for most. :D

[wcw43921]

I think the best examination of what makes a "pool babe" can be found in the story of Tandy West (Normals Unbound, pgs. 10-11). With a COM of 24--back when that meant something--I could imagine her as one of a dozen or more "girlfriends" who didn't mind what their man did for a living, so long as they got to enjoy the benefits.

(I also imagined her looking like Tori Spelling in her 90210 days--but that's just me.)


I can't imagine that it's a very good career path.

"Originally, I was hired as a pool babe, but then they had an opening as a henchman. They were like, but we never had a female henchman before. I showed them that I had a black belt in karate and a lot of experience with guns and getaway driving, but they still weren't having it. Eventually, I threatened them with a lawsuit. Do you know that they had several henchmen who had no formal training at all? Some of those guys were so lame that I can see why the boss was always killing them when they messed up. Anyway, I caught the boss' eye, and he moved me up to Lieutenant. I just had to get an eyepatch and work on my menacing gestures and threats. He wanted me to stand out when the heroes were around and threaten their families and stuff. So far it's great. I even have my own theme music now. It's not long, just a few chords, but how cool is that? I'm only worried because the guy who had the gig before me died fighting some schmuck on top of a crane or something. It pays well, but no one seems to last more than a couple of years. My mom hates it. She says I should have just been a gun moll like she was back in the day."

I lack the power to Reputate lapsedgamer at this time--could someone make sure he gets the Rep he deserves for this?

[Grymour]

Dis as you asked and repped Lapsedgamer.....

[moquif]

Let's see, she's 24 and he's 84. Her mother could be 42, her grandmother 60. He's old enough to be her great-grandfather. Either she's resolutely digging for buried treasure, or she has serious "grand-daddy" issues, or both.

Or maybe it's True Love...
:rofl:And if they have kids, she can change both their diapers at the same time!

[Trencher]

Drugs.
Gives you energy to train to get nice body. Makes you lazy and stupid.

[Spence]

Are you implying that I'm not a gangsta?


No one is implying you are not gangsta. We're just stating it as a fact.

Especially after the details of the Rabbits Foot Incident leaked out....:hush:

[dmjalund]

I know!

They grow them like sea monkeys!







what?

[megaplayboy]

I know!

They grow them like sea monkeys!







what?

That would be the most popular comic book ad ever.



....and if it didn't work, the most disappointing.

[Kraven Kor]

(I also imagined her looking like Tori Spelling in her 90210 days--but that's just me.)

Tori never had a 24 COM. Maybe 18. Maybe.

Wanna fight about it? ;)

[lapsedgamer]

Tori never had a 24 COM. Maybe 18. Maybe.

Wanna fight about it? ;)

12-14 tops. 24 COM (or +3 Striking Appearance for you 6E folks) is really hard to get in real life. Women I would cut off a limb to be with like Monica Belluci or Christina Hendricks are probably only going to come out in the 18-20 range. Maybe Scarlett Johansen or Angelina Jolie get a 22. It's really subjective. However, I agree with Kraven. Tori Spelling at her best was not close to an 24.

[Lucius]

From a Variable Babe Pool, of course.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary observes that the Control Cost is surprisingly steep

[Badger]

Well, there is the "TV reality vs our reality problem". I have no idea how accurate "A-Team" was, but I'm guessing not very.

I do know of one instance of intentionally stocking a party with beautiful women. Muammar Gaddafi, an important man in Libya, put out a request to a hostess agency for 500 beautiful young women. He only got 200. Essentially, he put out an ad and promised €50 for showing up.

5"7? I prefer short women myself. Just saying. (hey my family is filled with 6"0 guys marrying 5"1 women)

[Badger]

Well, as a villain myself, I am not into the whole hot pool babe thing. I just want to find a nice villainess (possible oxymoron) with common interest-or at least common hatreds of heroes-to share a budding criminal empire with.

Is that too much to ask?

[Badger]

Are you implying that I'm not a gangsta?

Well, you're evil incarnate with delusions of grandeur. That doesnt exclude gangster, but it isnt a primary description.

[Nevelon]

Mail order catalogs (Or probably on the web these days)

Just pick up a few BPMs from Tyrell and the pool is good to go.

[IndianaJoe3]

I just put out a personal ad looking for, "genetically superior breeding material."

[Nothere]

Well the important ting to remember is numbers. For example the 200 Kadafi had is way too many for your typical gangster/criminal mastermind. At a minimum your just trying to get some nicce eye candy as you relax. This isn't the playboy mansion, it's the hub of your criminal enterprise. Thats why most people limit their pool babes to around six at most. Then it's just a question of turnover. Does one of them show a use besides looking pretty in a bikini? Do you want to change them out every week? Then you'll need much more than six. But on average once you get four your pretty well set. If your wealth and power dosen't get you enough potenital canidates this ad should fill the bill.

Wanted beautiful woman to hang out at pool wearing as little as possible. Food, drinks, and patrty favors provided. Must be descrete. Severe penalties for indescrete applicants. Pay five thousand a week.

[pinecone]

Well, as a villain myself, I am not into the whole hot pool babe thing. I just want to find a nice villainess (possible oxymoron) with common interest-or at least common hatreds of heroes-to share a budding criminal empire with.

Is that too much to ask?

The Monarch already bagged her....

[mikesama]

I always figured most gangsters also ran an 'escort' service on the side and they'd have the ladies over at the bosses when they weren't actually working.

[Badger]

The Monarch already bagged her....

But, but, there has to be more than one out there, right? Maybe, even one who doesnt have a deeper voice than mine.

[megaplayboy]

From a Variable Babe Pool, of course.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary observes that the Control Cost is surprisingly steep

I suppose it has to be, in order to justify a continuing crime spree.


Otherwise, why continue? The VBP should be a veritable font of hedonistic fulfillment.

[Vondy]

Filthy lucre. Power. Exclusive circles. Protection. Flouting society's rules.

Women also have base motives.

Not just men.

[Greywind]

I'd put Tori Spelling at an 8 on her best day.

[moquif]

Filthy lucre. Power. Exclusive circles. Protection. Flouting society's rules.

Women also have base motives.

Not just men.

I may regret asking this, but what's "filthy lucre"?

Also I was referring to the make-believe world in the TV shows and movies where women having a harem of men is nearly unheard of.

But to be fair, you have a point we just don't see it as often. Those few times I have seen it, it was done in the context of being a control freak with S&M overtones instead of a "look at how manly I am" machismo.

[Karmakaze]

I may regret asking this, but what's "filthy lucre"?

"lucre" is just Latin for "money". "filthy lucre" is a phrase for having lots of money, with connotation of it being undeserved or accumulated in shady ways.

[Vondy]

I may regret asking this, but what's "filthy lucre"?

Dirty money. Generally a lot of illicitly gained cash.


Also I was referring to the make-believe world in the TV shows and movies where women having a harem of men is nearly unheard of.

There is a certain amount of Truth in Television, here. There have seldom been female crime bosses, and female mobsters are a rare exception. They have existed, but its more of an exception that proves a rule, especially with the mafia. As a result, we were talking past one another. I was responding to the question "where do gangsters get pool babes?" My answer: base motives. Gangsters have money, make use of power outside the law, have an unsavory populist mystique, and may be seen as protection. A young women less concerned with the quality of the man than the quantity he provides, and not possessing overly refined morals herself, could well trade on her "poolside looks" in exchange for access to those things.


But to be fair, you have a point we just don't see it as often. Those few times I have seen it, it was done in the context of being a control freak with S&M overtones instead of a "look at how manly I am" machismo.

Well, the mob has that Gollywood image to maintain. Very few of them are cut in the mold of The Dapper Don, John Gotti. A real mobster isn't a guy in a a brioni suit and rolex running a glitzy burlesque club and making collections in his lexus while surrounded by a harem wowza femme fatales, though. In the real world he's a guy in a stained wife-beater running a rinky-dink pizza joint with an under-dressed, over-painted, over-made-up mistress snapping her shiny press on nails for bills on the side. And he sent his nephew and chubby accomplice to make collections in the delivery van that needs a new transmission. One reason the mob has money is that they tend to be notorious grasping pinchfist lickpennies in terms of overhead.

But, if we are talking about Gollywood, you have some non-S&M archetypes for women with harems: Queen Bees and Dragon Ladies. They appear, in various cosmetic alterations in a wide variety of genres. Also, sometimes the Unwanted Harem trope is played. With female characters, however, this usually focuses on their sexual power, or is done to ham-fistedly inform the audience how sexy they are, and not rooted in the stereotypical cultural trappings of male power: money, power, violence, etcetera. Instead, these women are portrayed as sensual and (manipulatively) intelligent. Men and women select sex partners using very different sorting algorithms in the real world. To make male "pool girls" for a female character without the primary motive being that she is a sensuously dangerous intellect, ergo, that they wanted her because she had the traditional trappings of male power, requires a very deft authorial hand. Its not impossible, or unrealistic if you take the time to lay the groundwork to support it, but people won't buy into an unexplained gender reversal.

[Manic Typist]

...with an under-dressed, over-painted, over-made-up mistress snapping her shiny press on nails for bills on the side.

....is that a double entende that means what I think it means?

Just practicing reading subtext.

[Peregrine]

<snip>
...people won't buy into an unexplained gender reversal.

This is so true in so many areas beyond the thread topic....

[hancock.tom]

My pool babes just showed up after my pool was built and I went outside and cackled madly at the broad scope of my criminal empire while holding a martini. I think they are somewhat like stray cats, only they go for pools, money, and criminals instead of milk, snuggles, and cat food.

Just my experience. I'll walk outside and ask one of the pool girls once their coke buzz wears off and they are semi-coherent again.

[gojira]

Oops, quote/reply pilot error. Nothing to see here.

[gojira]

"Originally, I was hired as a pool babe, but then they had an opening as a henchman. They were like, but we never had a female henchman before. I showed them that I had a black belt in karate and a lot of experience with guns and getaway driving, but they still weren't having it. Eventually, I threatened them with a lawsuit. Do you know that they had several henchmen who had no formal training at all? Some of those guys were so lame that I can see why the boss was always killing them when they messed up. Anyway, I caught the boss' eye, and he moved me up to Lieutenant. I just had to get an eyepatch and work on my menacing gestures and threats. He wanted me to stand out when the heroes were around and threaten their families and stuff. So far it's great. I even have my own theme music now. It's not long, just a few chords, but how cool is that? I'm only worried because the guy who had the gig before me died fighting some schmuck on top of a crane or something. It pays well, but no one seems to last more than a couple of years. My mom hates it. She says I should have just been a gun moll like she was back in the day."


"Eventually though, I did make Nest Leader."


;) Have some rep.

[brionl]

Cost: 8 End: 4
Bimbos: Summon 16 50-point creatures, Friendly (+1/4) (37 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), OAF (Wad of Cash; -1), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2), Summoned Being Must Inhabit Locale (-1/2)

Also 1 Timothy 3:2-3
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

[Yansuf]

Cost: 8 End: 4
Bimbos: Summon 16 50-point creatures, Friendly (+1/4) (37 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), OAF (Wad of Cash; -1), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2), Summoned Being Must Inhabit Locale (-1/2)

Excellent!
But I think that the modifiers are to the base cost, not the 5 pt doublings.

[Lucius]

From a Variable Babe Pool, of course.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary observes that the Control Cost is surprisingly steep

It was probably inevitable that I write it up.

Variable Babe Pool, 50 base + 84 control cost, (92 Active Points); OAF Immobile (Swimming Pool; -2), Limited Special Effect Uncommon SFX (Babes; -1) Real Cost:60

Slots

Call Bimbo: Summon 20-point Babe, Weak-Willed -4 on EGO Rolls (+1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (8 Active Points); Extra Time (20 Minutes, Only to Activate, -1 1/4), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Bevy of Bimbos: Summon 8 20-point Babe, Weak-Willed -4 on EGO Rolls (+1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (38 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Call Bitch: Summon 175-point Babe, Variable Special Effects (Limited Group of SFX; So many ways to be a bitch...; +1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Expanded Class of Beings (Limited Group: Bitches; So many kinds of bitches...; +1/2) (79 Active Points); No Conscious Control (Only Effects cannot be controlled; You don't pick the bitch; the bitch picks you; -1), Antagonistic Hostile (-1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Pack of Bitches: Summon 4 125-point Babe, Variable Special Effects (Limited Group of SFX; So many ways to be a bitch...; +1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Expanded Class of Beings (Limited Group: Bitches; So many kinds of bitches...; +1/2) (79 Active Points); No Conscious Control (Only Effects cannot be controlled; You don't pick the bitch; the bitch picks you; -1), Antagonistic Hostile (-1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Starlet, Stripper, or Strumpet: Summon 75-point Babe, Expanded Class of Beings (Very Limited Group; Also Escorts, Models, Nurses...; +1/4), Friendly (x2 as many tasks; +1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (34 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Troupe of Starlets, Strippers, and/or Strumpets: Summon 16 75-point Babe, Expanded Class of Beings (Very Limited Group; Also Escorts, Models, Nurses...; +1/4), Friendly (x2 as many tasks; +1/2), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (79 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Day, Only to Activate, -2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Call Moll: Summon 90-point Babe, Trigger (Activating the Trigger requires a Zero Phase Action, Trigger requires a Turn or more to reset, Character does not control activation of personal Trigger, Trigger can expire (it has a time limit); This simply means that if the Moll has unused "tasks" and the character does not, or is not in a position to, give orders, the moll will execute some logical "task" unprompted. Examples of such spontaneous tasks: Arrange bail, call the lawyer, call an ambulance, shoot the hitman that's about to finish off the character, etc.; +1/4), Loyal (x4 as many tasks; +1), Time Limit (1 Week; +2 1/4) (81 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Day, Only to Activate, -2), 3 Charges which Recover every 1 Week (Loyal molls don't come along every day. Only about once a week.; -1 3/4), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Call Doll: Summon 80-point Babe, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Devoted (x2 as many tasks; +1), Time Limit (1 Month; +2 1/2) (80 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Collection of Dolls: Summon 4 30-point Babe, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Devoted (x2 as many tasks; +1), Time Limit (1 Month; +2 1/2) (80 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Hour, Only to Activate, -1 1/2), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Attract Groupie: Summon 80-point Babe, Trigger (Activating the Trigger requires a Zero Phase Action, Trigger requires a Turn or more to reset, Character does not control activation of personal Trigger, Trigger can expire (it has a time limit); This simply means that if the Groupie has unused "tasks" and the character does not, or is not in a position to, give orders, the Groupie will execute some logical "task" unprompted. Examples of such spontaneous tasks: Arrange bail, call the lawyer, call an ambulance, shoot the hitman that's about to finish off the character, etc.; +1/4), Slavishly Devoted (x2 as many tasks; +1 1/4), Time Limit (1 Month; +2 1/2) (80 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Week, Only to Activate, -2 1/4), 2 Charges (Recovers Under Limited Circumstances (Must do something to enhance reputation or draw attention); -1 1/4), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Grope of Groupies: Summon 4 30-point Babe, Trigger (Activating the Trigger requires a Zero Phase Action, Trigger requires a Turn or more to reset, Character does not control activation of personal Trigger, Trigger can expire (it has a time limit); This simply means that if the Groupie has unused "tasks" and the character does not, or is not in a position to, give orders, the Groupie will execute some logical "task" unprompted. Examples of such spontaneous tasks: Arrange bail, call the lawyer, call an ambulance, shoot the hitman that's about to finish off the character, etc.; +1/4), Slavishly Devoted (x2 as many tasks; +1 1/4), Time Limit (1 Month; +2 1/2) (80 Active Points); Extra Time (1 Week, Only to Activate, -2 1/4), 2 Charges (Recovers Under Limited Circumstances (Must do something to enhance reputation or draw attention); -1 1/4), Arrives Under Own Power (-1/2)

Looks like the place is packed with babes: Touch Group, Normal Sight and Normal Hearing Images, +/-6 to PER Rolls, Persistent (+1/4), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Uncontrolled (Turn it off by turning them off. They'll probably scatter when the fight starts anyway) (+1/2) (70 Active Points); Extra Time (20 Minutes, Only to Activate, -1 1/4), Set Effect (-1), Difficult to Alter simple changes take a Full Phase (Plus verbal instructions. "Why don't you girls all get in the pool?"; -1/2), Physical Manifestation (Because it IS packed with babes; -1/4)

Nice Scenery: Change Environment (-4 Characteristic Roll and all Skill Rolls based on Characteristic, Long-Lasting 1 Day, Varying Combat Effects), Personal Immunity (+1/4), Area Of Effect (8m Radius; +1/2) (70 Active Points); 3 Charges (-1 1/4), Limited Power Only effects justifiable based on babes (-1/2), Physical Manifestation (But who would want to hurt the babes?; -1/4), Variable Limitations (requires -1/2 worth of Limitations; Usually either Extra Time, or Conditional: must have some babes around already; -1/4)
Note:Filling it with babes is a nice way to change the environment. Possible Variable Combat Effects include: up to 5 STR Telekinesis, to represent casual use of babes to fetch drinks, make sandwhiches, give footrubs, and do other tasks requiring little strength or skill, or -5 to either PRE or EGO (whichever is higher) to do anything requiring focus or concentration. Note that setting it to -4 PRE rolls and PRE skills is very useful if one is negotiating something with a guest...

Not so dumb after all: Retrocognitive Clairsentience (Sight Group, Normal Smell And Normal Hearing), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (75 Active Points); No Conscious Control (Only Effects cannot be controlled; -1), Only Through The Senses Of Babes (-1/2), Limited Power Sometimes babes are confused, make something up, or are vague and uncertain (-1/2), Limited Range (-1/4)
Note: Sometimes a babe will notice something and even mention it - at the time or later

Naked Advantage: Line Of Sight (+1/2) for up to 3 Active Points (1 Active Points)
Note: Seeing them naked is one of the great advantages of a Variable Babe Pool...

Orgy: Swinging 1m, Uncontrolled (Completely wild and out of control!; +1/2) (1 Active Points); Extra Time (5 Minutes, Only to Activate, To get the party started; -1), Required Multiple Users ([3-4] people; Sort of by definition....; -1/2)
Note: Oh wait, not THAT kind of swinging....



Edit: Thought of one more possibility: Her Own Car/Her Own Place ("Let's hang out at your place for a while...") a Summon Vehicle or Base.


Lucius Alexander

Variable Palindromedary Pool

[bigbywolfe]

Lucius, once again you amaze and entertain me.

[Lucius]

Is "Gaggle of Groupies" right? Maybe it should be "Group of Groupies..."

Lucius Alexander

Variable Babe Pool is a product of Palindromedary Enterprises.

[Lucius]

Lucius, once again you amaze and entertain me.

I aim to aimaze, and I enter to entertain.

I did have a couple powers I dropped because Hero Designer said they shouldn't be in frameworks.

"You got a sister?" or "Bring your friends!" : Duplication, Usable on Other, only Usable on Babes. With Extra Time etc. of course.

Luck. Representing a chance that a babe finds a vital clue, knows someone important and can arrange a meeting, happens to see or overhear something significant, stumbles into the lamp and knocks it over just when you need the distraction and darkness to make your escape, etc.

Lucius Alexander

Coming soon from Palindromedary Enterprises: Interdimensional Babes!

(for certain values of "soon")

[Lucius]

He may need this one:

Don't be like that, babe, just listen to me...: Mind Control 7d6+1, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2), Cumulative (86 points; +3/4) (83 Active Points); Limited Class Of Minds Babes (-1), Extra Time (1 Turn (Post-Segment 12), Only to Activate, -3/4), Variable Limitations (requires -1 worth of Limitations; Normally some combination of: Skin Contact Required, Eye Contact Required, Expendable Focus (cash or gifts,) Requires Skill Roll: Charm, Literal Interpretation (especially for Bimbos); -1/2), Incantations (Fast Talking; -1/4)

Lucius Alexander

Variable Palindromedary Pool

[Bolon]

The question is how do they get pool babes. I think you need to look at how they got the pool, the money, the guys who sort out the babes from the undesirables and then we can see the pool babes. There are many girls who trade their beauty for parties when hot, young and foolish. The gangster has to reach a level of crime where he has the underlings that are sending him the money so he can have the place. If not, the place would be under constant surveillance by the cops. The gangster then needs to have the underlings that are not involved in getting money through crime to provide a secure environment. You can't do this when your bodyguards are wanted felons that the cops keep arresting. The amounts of money you are taking from the top must be enough that you can afford all the extras. There can't be someone up the food chain that you are paying money to so you can't afford all this.

Any A-hole can throw a beach party in a college town or area that would fill with young hot babes with the right recruiters. The pool babes have to be introduced and brought to a gangster since they need to be screened for cops and informants. If the cops deputize a couple of porn stars, we would see an end to the gangster culture after it was known they might be informants. It would actually work if the cops could turn a couple of porn stars who wanted to vanish forever in the witness protection program. Break a few large crime rings and destroy the idea of the gangster or crimelord with hundreds of pool babes.

For all these reason I think pool babes are usually a very trusted girl who is procuring the rest, like a stripper or porn star bringing their friends. Otherwise, all would fall apart since too much would be known outside the criminal group.

[Xavier Onassiss]

I aim to aimaze, and I enter to entertain.

I did have a couple powers I dropped because Hero Designer said they shouldn't be in frameworks.

"You got a sister?" or "Bring your friends!" : Duplication, Usable on Other, only Usable on Babes. With Extra Time etc. of course.

Luck. Representing a chance that a babe finds a vital clue, knows someone important and can arrange a meeting, happens to see or overhear something significant, stumbles into the lamp and knocks it over just when you need the distraction and darkness to make your escape, etc.

Lucius Alexander

Coming soon from Palindromedary Enterprises: Interdimensional Babes!

(for certain values of "soon")

And don't forget Life Support: Immunity v. Social Diseases -- very important for anyone using the Variable Babe Pool!

[Lucius]

And don't forget Life Support: Immunity v. Social Diseases -- very important for anyone using the Variable Babe Pool!

True, but it wouldn't necessarly be something bought via the Pool.

Besides, I'm already pushing the limits of what can be justified under the special effects.

edit: But how about this?
Protection: Life Support (Immunity: Venereal diseases and conception) (4 Active Points); Extra Time (Extra Phase, Only to Activate, Putting it on; -1/2), OIF (Prophylactic; Requires Multiple Foci if one is to enjoy more than one babe!; -1/4), Requires A Roll (14- roll; Ooops; -1/4) Real Cost:2

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary notes that the Pool has been reputized thrice....if this keeps up, Lucius may start writing up the Summoned Babes

[brionl]

I aim to aimaze, and I enter to entertain.

I did have a couple powers I dropped because Hero Designer said they shouldn't be in frameworks.

"You got a sister?" or "Bring your friends!" : Duplication, Usable on Other, only Usable on Babes. With Extra Time etc. of course.


I'd think that would just be a special effect of the +5pts for x2 beings summoned.

And it should be a "grope of groupies".

[Lucius]

I'd think that would just be a special effect of the +5pts for x2 beings summoned.

And it should be a "grope of groupies".

So let it be written; so let it be groped

Lucius Alexander

And a heard of palindromedaries

[Xavier Onassiss]

True, but it wouldn't necessarly be something bought via the Pool.

Besides, I'm already pushing the limits of what can be justified under the special effects.

edit: But how about this?
Protection: Life Support (Immunity: Venereal diseases and conception) (4 Active Points); Extra Time (Extra Phase, Only to Activate, Putting it on; -1/2), OIF (Prophylactic; Requires Multiple Foci if one is to enjoy more than one babe!; -1/4), Requires A Roll (14- roll; Ooops; -1/4) Real Cost:2

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary notes that the Pool has been reputized thrice....if this keeps up, Lucius may start writing up the Summoned Babes

We may have to spin off a new HeroMachine thread....

[wcw43921]

I got yer pool babes right 'cheer--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2r28ZnMRgI&NR=1

(The song is really great too--just ignore the three morons who introduce the video.)

[Clonus]

Moron-free version here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zfbk_fabulous-thunderbirds-wrap-it-up_music

[Lucius]

Wrote this up, just now getting around to posting it.


Molly the Moll
Val Char Cost Roll Notes
8 STR -2 11- Lift 75.8kg; 1 1/2d6
11 DEX 2 11- OCV: 5/DCV: 5
13 CON 3 12-
8 BODY -2
13 INT 3 12- PER Roll 12-
10 EGO 0 11- ECV: 3 - 4
15 PRE 5 12- PRE Attack: 3d6


3/17 PD 1 Total: 3/17 PD (0/6 rPD)
3/9 ED 1 Total: 3/9 ED (0/6 rED)
3 SPD 10 Phases: 4, 8, 12
4 REC 0
20 END 0
18 STUN -1 Total Characteristic Cost: 38

Movement:
Running: 8m/16m
Leaping: 2m/4m
Swimming: 4m/8m

Cost Powers END
12 I haven't been killed yet: Combat Luck (6 PD/6 ED)
6 +8 PD (8 Active Points); Linked (I haven't been killed yet; Greater Power is Constant or in use most or all of the time; -1/4)

Talents
1 You got nothin' on me. I wanna lawyer.: Resistance (+1 to roll)

Skills
3 I can tell 'em what they want to hear: Charm 12-
2 I can be the getaway driver.: Combat Driving 10-
3 Every man has a price: Bribery 12-
3 I know the score: Streetwise 12-
2 Help! He's holding me hostage!: Acting 10-
2 Not the first bullet wound I've had to patch up.: Paramedics 10-
2 I got nailed for shoplifting once or twice: Sleight Of Hand 10-
3 Yeah, I'm a gun moll. WF: Small Arms, Blades
1 Take this, it's loaded: Weaponsmith (Firearms) 12- (2 Active Points); Limited Power Only to clear jams, rapid reload, or identify - can't actually make a gun (-1)
0 It's what I do: PS: Moll (Background Skill) 11-
3 Traveler - I know this town and I know who's who and what's what!
1 1) I know a good lawyer: CuK: Lawyers, bailbondsmen, and other people good to know in a jam (2 Active Points) 11-
2 2) I know my rights!: CuK: Police Procedures (3 Active Points) 12-
2 3) I know my way around: CK: Campaign City (3 Active Points) 12-
2 4) I know where to go if you're on the lam: AK: Hideouts, safe houses, good getaway routes (3 Active Points) 12-
2 5) I know who he works for, and you don't want to cross him: CuK: Crime and Criminals (3 Active Points) 12-

Total Powers & Skill Cost: 52
Total Cost: 90

90+ Disadvantages
20 "I'm YOUR girl now" Psychological Complication: Loyalty (Very Common; Strong)
5 "Yeah, they know my name now." Social Complication: Police Record Frequently, Minor, Not Limiting In Some Cultures
5 "They talked to me, but I didn't tell 'em a thing, Boss." Hunted: The Boss's enemies. Usually including the police. Infrequently (Mo Pow; NCI; Limited Geographical Area; Watching)
10 "Boss wouldn't like that." Hunted: "The Boss" Frequently (Mo Pow; Limited Geographical Area; PC has a Public ID or is otherwise very easy to find; Watching)
5 "Rotten Luck" Unluck: 1d6
5 "Yeah, I was just over the limit and the cop pulled me over and asked about you! He didn't just want to give me a ticket, he wants me to know he knows my car." Negative Reputation: Known Associate of _________, Frequently (Known Only To A Small Group; Law Enforcement and Criminals)
40 Base Points

Total Disadvantage Points: 90

Background/History: Molly is an example of a high end "babe" from a Variable Babe Pool, specifically, one that might appear for the "Call Moll" power.

Personality/Motivation: After the "honeymoon" (the set of Tasks calculated, plus a week of "hanging around") unless the moll is re-Summoned or other steps taken (Bribery or Persuasion rolls perhaps) her loyalty may wane or she may move out of the campaign. While unlikely to "sell out" (and even less likely to sing to the cops) she may move on to some other tough guy who impressed her, either with more lavish parties or with an even darker and more dangerous reputation. Or she may get into trouble on her own initiative and end up in jail, taking it on the lam with no forwarding address, or even get killed. If the character gets really attached to a moll, there's always the option of buying her as a Follower.

Quote: Whatever you say, boss.

Powers/Tactics: While designed to hopefully survive a firefight, Molly is probably not a frontline enforcer. She can be a back up getaway driver, a distraction, or one more gun on your side in a fight. With 15 pts in Streetwise and Knowledge Skills, she may make a useful advisor.

Campaign Use: Aside from being a Summoned Babe, this character sheet could be used for a more permanent moll for crime bosses ranging from a prohibition era bootlegger to a 21st century drug lord, or even the girlfriend of certain kinds of villains in a superhero game.

Appearance: Molls are not necessarily chosen for looks (they have other things to contribute) but any given crime lord's moll is probably at least moderately attractive by whatever his personal standards are.


Lucius Alexander

Palindromedary Enterprises. Moll is for entertainment purposes only. Palindromedary Enterprises does not condone violence, recreational use of controlled substances, loud partying, casual or high risk sexual behavior or any other aspects of a criminal lifestyle.

[Lucius]

This is for a common bimbo

Some Bimbo
Val Char Cost Roll Notes
5 STR -5 10- Lift 50.0kg; 1d6
8 DEX -4 11- OCV: 2/DCV: 2
8 CON -2 11-
8 BODY -2
8 INT -2 11- PER Roll 11-
8 EGO -2 11- ECV: 3 - 2
8 PRE -2 11- PRE Attack: 1 1/2d6


2 PD 0 Total: 2 PD (0 rPD)
2 ED 0 Total: 2 ED (0 rED)
2 SPD 0 Phases: 6, 12
4 REC 0
20 END 0
18 STUN -1 Total Characteristic Cost: -32

Movement:
Running: 12m/24m
Leaping: 4m/8m
Swimming: 6m/12m

Cost Powers END
5 A little luck never hurts: Luck 1d6
1 I can hold my breath: Life Support (Extended Breathing: 1 END per Turn)

Talents
4 +2/+2d6 Striking Appearance (vs. [people who like bimbos])

Skills
5 Hi honey: Charm 12-
3 I can put my ankles behind my head. Wanna see?: Contortionist 11-
3 Aw, c'mon!: Persuasion 11-
3 I know the score: Streetwise 11-
1 I've lived on the streets: Survival (Urban) 8-
3 Keep my mouth shut, smile, and watch what everyone else is doing. That's how.: High Society 11-
3 I'm not as dumb as I act: Acting 11-
3 That's awesome! Tell me more.: Conversation 11-
0 It's what I do: PS: Bimbo (Backgrond Skill) 11-
4 I got social skills: +1 with all Interaction Skills
2 Good in bed: +1 with Charm, Contortionist, Acting (3 Active Points); Limited Power Only in a sexual context (-1/2)
3 I'm not a dummy, I know stuff. Scholar
2 1) KS: Carnal Knowledge (3 Active Points) 12-
1 2) KS: Clothes, fashion, & makeup (2 Active Points) 11-
1 3) KS: Local gossip (2 Active Points) 11-
1 4) KS: Popular Culture (2 Active Points) 11-

Total Powers & Skill Cost: 48
Total Cost: 16

20+ Disadvantages
15 Physical Complication: Weak Will, -4 to EGO rolls (Frequently; Slightly Impairing)
5 Social Complication: Bimbo Frequently, Minor, Not Limiting In Some Cultures

Total Disadvantage Points: 20

Background/History: She's from the shallow end of the Variable Babe Pool

Personality/Motivation: Girls just wanna have fun. Bimbos like this drift in and out all the time. Easy come, easy go.

Quote: Great party!

Powers/Tactics: Looks good in a bikini. Fun at parties. Even more fun in bed. Strong swimmer (lots of time in the pool. Builds up those leg muscles.)

Campaign Use: Besides being a Summoned Babe, can be anything from a streetwalker to a trophy wife. A few points left unspent to give each bimbo a little something to individualize her, if you want to bother.

Appearance: Invariably sexy, if you like that kind of girl


Lucius Alexander

Palindromedary Enterprises. Bimbo is for entertainment purposes only. Palindromedary Enterprises does not condone violence, recreational use of controlled substances, loud partying, casual or high risk sexual behavior or any other aspects of a criminal lifestyle.

[Steve]

Lucius, I'd rep you for the write-ups if I could, but I've rep-slapped you recently.

What is the difference between a moll and a doll? I read through the different summoning powers, and I'm not sure what the 80-point Doll is for.

[Lucius]

Lucius, I'd rep you for the write-ups if I could, but I've rep-slapped you recently.

What is the difference between a moll and a doll? I read through the different summoning powers, and I'm not sure what the 80-point Doll is for.

The major difference is that the doll, while a "high-end" babe, is unlike the moll or groupie in that a doll is not set up to act independently. If you're incarcerated, for instance, a moll will go out on her own to arrange bail (assuming she has "tasks" left, otherwise she may just find a new boss) but a doll will hang around (for up to a month) at the house passively until you return or someone chases her out or she realizes there's no more food in the fridge.

If you're recovering at home from a gunfight, a doll (with the right skills) might make a good nurse, until you take a turn for the worse and fall unconscious and can't be awakened. Then the doll may stand and dither, whereas a moll would call an ambulance, or a "street doc" if she knows of one you trust, or otherwise do something useful.

You could get around this with conditional tasks: "IF X, THEN Y" commands, but that only covers contingencies you thought of and uses up your task allotment.

So what's the doll got going for her? There's the fact she's "low maintenance" and will hang around for up to a month until needed for something. Also, the doll is "Devoted" where the moll is "Loyal" so while there may be things a moll won't do, there is very little a doll won't do for you. A moll will fight by your side in a firefight; a doll will walk ahead of you into a minefield.




Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary reminds me that I've got a game to get to tonight so I'd better start getting ready

[Lucius]

Also 1 Timothy 3:2-3
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife,

How times have changed

Lucius Alexander

the palindromedary patiently reminds me yet again that I've got a game to get to