questoin about the Armor Power...

[Bloodstone]

:confused:

I have a character that has a base PD and ED of 6. I want to add 15 points of harded, resistant defense so I bought the armor power. Then I decided to make the base 6 of PD and ED hardened and resistant using damage resistance power. This would give me a total hardened PD/ED of 21.

If I buy Hardened Armor 15/15 it costs me 56 points. Buying my base PD/ED of 6, with the hardened advantage, costs me an additonal 7 points.

Total cost: 63 points.

However, if I instead buy my base PD and ED values up to 21 each it only costs me 30 points. Then buying Damage Resistance with the hardened advantage I can get all of that converted into Hardened, Resistant defense for 26 more points.

Total cost: 56 points.

Savings by doing the second way: 7 points

Seems the second way of doing things is cheeper and just as good in overall effect.

So am I missing something? Is there some benefit to taking hardened armor vs buying increased levles of PD/ED with hardened damage resistance?

[Monolith]

Originally posted by Bloodstone
[BSo am I missing something? Is there some benefit to taking hardened armor vs buying increased levles of PD/ED with hardened damage resistance? [/B]
What you are missing is the fact that you are buying Hardened Damage Resistance, but not Hardened Defenses. You need to purchase Hardened on both the PD/ED and the Damage Resistance, not just the Damage Resistance. Otherwise the Hardened Damage Resistance will stop an AP killing attack, but will not stop an AP punch.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Per p. 37 of the FAQ, any advantages on DR and on the base PD/ED have to match. This was explicitly stated to be the case with Hardened.

[Bloodstone]

wow, quick responses...

ok, so I have to buy Damage Resistance with the Hardened Advantage and Hardened PD/ED?

OK, one problem: I can obviously figure out how to buy Hardened Damage Resistance, but how do you do buy hardened PD/ED, bearing in mind I'm a noob that is using Hero Designer v1.47 (which is so far quite cool...)

[Bloodstone]

never mind...I believe I figured it out...it's under the characteristics tab in the powers section.

thanks for the help

[Killer Shrike]

Originally posted by Bloodstone
never mind...I believe I figured it out...it's under the characteristics tab in the powers section.

thanks for the help Off the top of my head (dont have HD handy), add 0 PD and 0 ED as Powers, add the Hardened Advantage to each, and check the "Apply Modifiers to Characteristic" box.

That will do the trick to make PD and ED Hardened.

[Bloodstone]

Thanks Shrike. Thats exactly what I did and it seems to have worked like a charm.