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  1. Galactic Champions-eque material?

    We'd almost have to be. After all, you've got to survive hundreds of thousands of years of being a caveman and hunting the mastodon with a sharp stick, before you can develop anything like civilization. A lot of the things we frown upon today (racism, bullying, sexism, etc) make perfect sense in pre-civilization hunter gatherer land. You want to pick on the weak and drive them out of your tribe. Somebody who is too weird, they're probably showing genetic traits you don't want in your group. People who look too different (skin color, whatever) probably came from a long ways away. They probably carry diseases you don't have resistance to. Being accepting of guys with different skin color didn't work out too well for the American Indian. As far as women go, you want them breeding as early as possible, so there's probably going to be an age disparity between them and your men (bigger, stronger men get first choice of the most fertile women). This will generally lead to them taking subservient positions. Now, today we have the technology and the social structures that we don't have to live this way. Better communication and safer travel show us that we're way more similar to other people than we are different. Better medicine means that encountering a new group of people isn't necessarily going to cause a super-plague. More food means less incentive to slaughter a competing tribe. This is only possible once you've gone beyond hunter-gatherer stage. But our basic animal instincts don't evolve like that. Our primal nature is still that of the caveman throwing the rock at the stranger.
  2. Weird thread title, huh? I tried posting on this subject a few years ago, but the thread didn't get many responses, in part because I didn't even understand what I was asking for. I had a hard time putting the idea into words. Therefore, I got very few responses. Hopefully I'll have better luck this time. The thread on Galactic Champions, where discussion turned towards Emperor Superman taking over and making the world a better place (why shouldn't he do it?), reminded me of this and so I wanted to raise the topic again. So the basic idea is to look at Silver and Bronze age comics and come up with workable modern explanations for why things happen the way they do in those old stories. Come up with Iron Age-worthy explanations for why older, brighter stories could take place. Justify the happy world of the comics I grew up with to a modern, cynical audience. For instance: --With the presence of Superman and other heroic characters always saving the day, there was no pressing need to force updated fire codes, or improve airline safety. There's always some burning tenement building in Gotham or New York or wherever, because the local superhero always saves everyone. You haven't had those disasters where 200 people burn to death. A headline that says "Building Burns in Hell's Kitchen, Zero Dead Thanks to Daredevil. Molly the cat missing." doesn't generate near the calls for political action that you saw in the real world in the mid-20th century. So there's always some kind of emergency for the heroes to react to. --In the real world, huge increases in violent crime in the late 70s through the early 90s led to a "tough on crime" approach that saw incarceration skyrocket and police use more aggressive tactics. In the 60s and early 70s it was not uncommon for murderers and other criminals to receive shorter sentences, or often be placed in mental hospitals (compared to today). Many courts were also more likely to use the exclusionary rule to keep out improperly obtained evidence, the whole "bad guy goes free on a technicality" thing that you've heard about. When Bloods and Crips started massacring each other in the 80s (and then all the crazy meth-related crimes of the 90s), courts became much more conservative and far less likely to do that. If superheroes are present, that spike in crime may never occur, leading to the "revolving door" that lets supercriminals back out of jail. --Investment into super-technology has led tech development in a different direction than in the real world. iPhones and internet are less important when people can build flying robots and things of that nature. Tech trends towards big and bold industrial scale instead of small consumer oriented devices. The Batman Animated Series villain HARDAC is a great example. It's a super-computer 80 feet tall that is self aware and can shoot zap bolts. That's cooler than Angry Birds. The justification is that when people have super-powers, the investment is going to go in the direction of countering and/or duplicating those abilities. This also means less money for things like ever-present security cameras, or facial recognition software. --More tolerance for vigilantes and known "good guys" because of the prevalence of super-crime. Mind control rays and extradimensional evil twins are a proven thing. People know they exist for a fact. So when Batman, who has defended his city for 10+ years, suddenly goes on a week-long crime spree robbing banks, once he "gets over it" and starts being a hero again, no criminal charges get filed. Batman tells the cops that the Joker used a hypnosis ray, and everybody says okay and just believes him. After all, everyone remembers last year when half the city got hit by a hypnosis ray and spent the afternoon thinking they were chickens. Known superheroes are going to get the benefit of the doubt in almost all situations, because everyone knows they're the only ones who can really stop some of these villains.
  3. Glass cannon syndrome.

    I'll just leave this here. Even non-powered superheroes have great stats.
  4. Glass cannon syndrome.

    Cyclops is plenty tough. He's way tougher than a stupid rhino. How many rhinos fight Magneto? You seem to be under the impression that PD and ED have some kind of testable, real world equivalent. Like a certain material density gives you a certain PD. There isn't. While tougher materials can have higher defense, that's not the only thing that can give you more PD. Cyke's PD isn't a measure of bone density or muscle mass. He has high PD because he's usually one of the last X-Men standing. He has a high PD because he just doesn't really get hurt.
  5. Glass cannon syndrome.

    Superheroes don't take it.
  6. Glass cannon syndrome.

    Take a look at the table on page 58 of the 5th ed Champions Genre Book. You can get to 15 base PD and ED, before any Combat Luck, without being classified as "superhuman".
  7. Glass cannon syndrome.

    Who says 20 Def is superhuman? Superheroes don't follow that damn Normal Characteristic Maximum. Batman doesn't have a 20 Dex or a 4 Speed. Not to mention that we have plenty of examples of characters in comic books engaging in superhuman fights, getting hit, and not dying. In the Hero system, that's normally represented by good PD and ED.
  8. Glass cannon syndrome.

    I don't know how you're imagining them. My versions of Cyclops and Storm have around 20 Def each. They don't have a force field or anything like that, they've just got high nonresistant PD and ED and then some Combat Luck.
  9. Glass cannon syndrome.

    Who says that Storm and Cyclops have no defenses? Just because they don't have a defined superpower that protects them, that doesn't mean they've got 5 PD/ED.
  10. Luthors Masterplan in Batman vs Superman

    This movie sucked because it didn't have Otis in it.
  11. Galactic Champions-eque material?

    Just because a dude is really strong and is also nice, that doesn't mean he knows a damn thing about governing a country.
  12. Negative END and charges

    Charges cost 0 End to use. They just do. It doesn't take "one End" worth of effort to pull a trigger. If the guy with Drain wants to penalize a guy who primarily uses Charges, he should pay for it.
  13. Classic Movie Plot Holes (Spoilers)

    When I built the Millennium Falcon in Hero, I gave it 3 types of propulsion. Basic flight, conventional FTL, and then an XDM "hyperdrive" that crosses the galaxy almost instantly. Or you could just assume that in Star Wars, their stars are closer together than ours.
  14. Classic Movie Plot Holes (Spoilers)

    Only the gas was important. The other things he could fix with 19th century tech. Perhaps he drained the gas and other fluids before he put it in the cave, so it would last longer.
  15. Classic Movie Plot Holes (Spoilers)

    I thought Indy managed to get in the sub. It's been a while since I've seen it, but I thought he was hiding inside somewhere. As far as it being a plot-hole, Indy didn't know the Ark was going to melt all the Nazis. He was trying to stop them from stealing a priceless archaeological treasure, not keep them from using an all-powerful weapon. Actually if the Nazis hadn't opened it, Indy might have done it himself. At the beginning of the movie, he mentions it being "superstitious nonsense", or something along those lines.
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