Doctor Destroyer versus Takofanes

[Gary]

Originally posted by Keneton
I will run the fight as Destroyer against any and all comers. I only want a neutral GM (like LL) to ascertain the fairness of the gadget pools and power pools and or set up the rules for the meating, the range etc.

I will show how tactically Dex and Speed can be used.

Any takers and how do we do it.

What are the ground rules? I'd like to know the specifics before starting. LL would be fine as GM.

[Agent X]

Gary, after reading your responses to Lord Liaden and myself, I'm just going to sum up my position and be done with it. I think you are engaging in far too much roll playing and not enough role playing. Your responses have also been more harrassing than meaningful.

Dr. Destroyer and Takofanes both have attacks that could be devastating to the other with good rolls. Barring munchkin power pool constructions from either side, there is no real sure-fire method of taking the other guy down. Dr. Destroyer has the advantage of knowledge skills that allow him to at least have a notion of what he is up against. Takofanes' background and knowledge skills suggest he would be fairly ignorant of who Dr. Destroyer was. Dr. Destroyer is more likely to hit and to avoid attacks than is Takofanes. Dr. Destroyer also has a higher speed. Takofanes has a larger and more versatile power pool and his defenses are a little better in preventing one big hit from taking him down. Takofanes' modus operandi is not the best to use against someone like Dr. Destroyer which Takofanes will realize shortly after they begin to exchange fire.

As I've said before, I'm going to playtest this a few times to see how it turns out. In my playtest, there will be no suppress stun attacks that are spread.

[Agent X]

Originally posted by Keneton
I will run the fight as Destroyer against any and all comers. I only want a neutral GM (like LL) to ascertain the fairness of the gadget pools and power pools and or set up the rules for the meating, the range etc.

I will show how tactically Dex and Speed can be used.

Any takers and how do we do it.

Can I watch?

[Gary]

Originally posted by Agent X
Gary, after reading your responses to Lord Liaden and myself, I'm just going to sum up my position and be done with it. I think you are engaging in far too much roll playing and not enough role playing. Your responses have also been more harrassing than meaningful.

Dr. Destroyer and Takofanes both have attacks that could be devastating to the other with good rolls. Barring munchkin power pool constructions from either side, there is no real sure-fire method of taking the other guy down. Dr. Destroyer has the advantage of knowledge skills that allow him to at least have a notion of what he is up against. Takofanes' background and knowledge skills suggest he would be fairly ignorant of who Dr. Destroyer was. Dr. Destroyer is more likely to hit and to avoid attacks than is Takofanes. Dr. Destroyer also has a higher speed. Takofanes has a larger and more versatile power pool and his defenses are a little better in preventing one big hit from taking him down. Takofanes' modus operandi is not the best to use against someone like Dr. Destroyer which Takofanes will realize shortly after they begin to exchange fire.

As I've said before, I'm going to playtest this a few times to see how it turns out. In my playtest, there will be no suppress stun attacks that are spread.

You're welcome to your opinion. I'm not the one arbitrarily denying the other side use of their powers in the battle.

[Agent X]

Originally posted by Gary
You're welcome to your opinion. I'm not the one arbitrarily denying the other side use of their powers in the battle.

I should have addressed this particular harrassing statement before. There is nothing arbitrary about how I thought out Takofanes' tactics. I read the description of the character and thought how he would play out in a scene. I feel you have been busy interpreting the character's actions in the most favorable light for his success regardless of what is written in his description. If anyone is being arbitrary about Takofanes it is you. You seem to envision him simply as a large cosmic vpp to do with what you will, irrespective of what his description suggests.

[Lord Liaden]

Guys, I think we're reaching an interpretative impasse here. We obviously have some entrenched opinions which aren't likely to budge. I'd hate for a thread I started to provoke any personal conflicts, so perhaps we could tone down the rhetoric before that happens?

As for a contest: if you mean PBEM, that's an intriguing notion (and thanks for the vote of confidence for me as neutral arbiter ), but I have no experience with that kind of setup. Also I'm a little uncomfortable with the heat this is generating in some of the parties involved; maybe a little later when things cool off a bit.

In the meantime, as I said I'd love to hear how your own playtests turn out.

[Insaniac99]

I don't have much experiance in that area, but I do have some, and I'm willing try to be a GM for this conflict.

I have AOL, ICQ, Yahoo! and one other I can't remember.. (i use trillian which combines them all) and I used to have MSN before it went down.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Agent X
I should have addressed this particular harrassing statement before. There is nothing arbitrary about how I thought out Takofanes' tactics. I read the description of the character and thought how he would play out in a scene. I feel you have been busy interpreting the character's actions in the most favorable light for his success regardless of what is written in his description. If anyone is being arbitrary about Takofanes it is you. You seem to envision him simply as a large cosmic vpp to do with what you will, irrespective of what his description suggests.

X, lose the attitude. You're the one who started with the accusations of "harrassment". You're the one who seems to take it as a personal insult that people would actually disagree with your interpretation of Takofanes's character. For example, you're the only person in this entire thread who thinks that a Fear attack would be inappropriate for an Undying Lich Lord.

[Agent X]

Originally posted by Gary
X, lose the attitude. You're the one who started with the accusations of "harrassment". You're the one who seems to take it as a personal insult that people would actually disagree with your interpretation of Takofanes's character. For example, you're the only person in this entire thread who thinks that a Fear attack would be inappropriate for an Undying Lich Lord.

And Merry Christmas to you.

Honestly Gary, have you been too busy disagreeing to fail to notice HOW you have disagreed? You have described my reasoning as arbitrary when I have been very forthcoming about how I came to my decisions. I quoted the books. You are the one throwing sarcastic smilies in this one. I don't take someone disagreeing with my interpretation as Takofanes as an insult. I view the way you've been posting your disagreements as insulting. You have been rude, pretty mild by NGD standards, but you have been rude.

[Gary]

Originally posted by Agent X
And Merry Christmas to you.

Honestly Gary, have you been too busy disagreeing to fail to notice HOW you have disagreed? You have described my reasoning as arbitrary when I have been very forthcoming about how I came to my decisions. I quoted the books. You are the one throwing sarcastic smilies in this one. I don't take someone disagreeing with my interpretation as Takofanes as an insult. I view the way you've been posting your disagreements as insulting. You have been rude, pretty mild by NGD standards, but you have been rude.

I guess we're at an impasse. Let's stop this before it gets any further.

[Hermit]

Good, it's settled. In a battle between Dr. Destroyer and Takofanes...

Foxbat Wins!

[lemming]

Originally posted by Hermit
Good, it's settled. In a battle between Dr. Destroyer and Takofanes...

Foxbat Wins!

Hmm, Takofanes would kill Foxbat and raise him as a lich. Of course, slavishly loyal, but that could be a very odd scenario and I'm afraid Takofanes' head would explode after abit.

[Hermit]

Hmm.. "Foxbat wantz brainz...."

Frightening.

[ZootSoot]

Originally posted by Agent X
I should have addressed this particular harrassing statement before. There is nothing arbitrary about how I thought out Takofanes' tactics. I read the description of the character and thought how he would play out in a scene. I feel you have been busy interpreting the character's actions in the most favorable light for his success regardless of what is written in his description. If anyone is being arbitrary about Takofanes it is you. You seem to envision him simply as a large cosmic vpp to do with what you will, irrespective of what his description suggests.

Let's not abuse the language here Doug. You are relying on your personal judgement after your personal reading of the character, you judgement may be right but it is definitively arbitrary. In fact, any opinion we express without significant, reliable and repeatable experiment is arbitrary.

[Agent X]

Originally posted by ZootSoot
Let's not abuse the language here Doug. You are relying on your personal judgement after your personal reading of the character, you judgement may be right but it is definitively arbitrary. In fact, any opinion we express without significant, reliable and repeatable experiment is arbitrary.

Let's not abuse the way words are used as opposed to what dictionaries say, Zoot. What Gary was suggesting was not what you are explaining as the meaning of arbitrary.