Super Metals and Alloys

[Nightmask]

Vibranium, Adamantium, Osium, Kyptonite... anyone know the DEF & BODY of these or any other Superheroic matertials?

[megaplayboy]

Vibranium, Adamantium, Osium, Kyptonite... anyone know the DEF & BODY of these or any other Superheroic matertials?

Take your strongest PC's strongest attack, push and haymaker it, max out the BODY, and add 2 DEF

I use Balxittium, or Balxite in it's "crude" form, as the toughest material in the universe. Pure Balxittium is utterly unaffected by anything, and must be found in the form required("Look, a balxittium shield!" "Where?" "why, right next to that giant starship-shaped piece!")

[austenandrews]

Apparently Adamantium, being indestructable, has infinite DEF. Though you can argue that while it's never damaged, STUN can get through (Ultron gets rattled sometimes) so maybe the infinite DEF is just against BODY damage.

The Adamantium/vibranium alloy, on ther other hand, seemingly has infinite DEF against BODY and STUN, as well as infinite Knockback Resistance.

Is Kryptonite any stronger than a common stone like granite? I never had the impression it was, though I've never read many Superman comics.

-AA

[Witch Doctor]

There are iirc some things that are actually more durable than adamantium. I seem to recall that Cap's shield was made in a lab accident that made it harder than adamantium (in fact, I read somewhere that adamantium was created when some engineers tried to reverse engineer the metal in Cap's shield). Uru, as I recall, is also suppossed to be more durable.
So, unless you want to give these items a durability of infinity + 1, adamantium -can't- have infinite durability.

[Lord Liaden]

Adamantium is virtually unbreakable, but the Defense it gives to someone using it for protection is another matter - it's not necessarily perfect at preventing the transmission of impact damage and the like, as a number of comic precedents demonstrate. I'd treat any defensive artifact made of adamantium as an Unbreakable Focus, but set the actual Defense it grants to a character as desired. OTOH a solid wall or shell of adamantium would simply be unbreachable by any force a character is likely to wield.

Vibranium absorbs energy, either electromagnetic or any physical impact - good justification for Damage Reduction. You might even build a vibranium artifact with Absorption to its own Defense, since vibranium stores the energy in its own molecular bonds, presumably making them stronger.

[Whitewings]

The toughest substance in the Marvel Universe, so far as I know, is Captain America's shield, made of a unique alloy of true adamantium and Wakandan vibranium. There are tougher things, but none of them are entirely material objects. Only the power of the Beyonder ever broke it, and only that same power could restore it. Now, that being said, I'd give true adamantium a DEF slightly higher than the absolute upper limit of BODY that can be done in your campaign world; secondary adamantium would have a DEF a point or two below that limit

Kryptonite isn't particularly "super," it's just a mineral. It can be worked, shaped, refined, melted down, and so forth by conventional methods.

Osmium is a real substance; to determine its game stats, look up its real world properties, relate them to steel, and go from there. It's the densest substance that exists outside of ultrabaric environments.

[austenandrews]

I think the Molecule Man dissolved Cap's shield once.

-AA

[Vorsch]

Well he was part beyonder.

No Super should have the raw power to break any of these things. In X2 magneto hints that he can break adamantium, and Thor once summoned enough magnetic power from a worlds core in his hammer to strike a celestial with which he said would destroy his hammer if contained to long , that makes the attack REALY big and used by a pc.

[Stormraven]

FWIW, Thor once cracked a large quantity of Adamantium. It was actually in a Dr. Strange, or a Hulk (I don't recall which, but probably the Dr. Strange) when Hulk had gone fully bestial, with no trace of Banner. Thor knocked him into an adamantium statue (of the Hulk, ironically enough) and the statue received several cracks.

[SleepyDrug]

The toughest substance in the Marvel Universe, so far as I know, is Captain America's shield, made of a unique alloy of true adamantium and Wakandan vibranium. There are tougher things, but none of them are entirely material objects. Only the power of the Beyonder ever broke it, and only that same power could restore it. Now, that being said, I'd give true adamantium a DEF slightly higher than the absolute upper limit of BODY that can be done in your campaign world; secondary adamantium would have a DEF a point or two below that limit

Actually, there is no Adamantium in Cap's shield. Adamantium was an attempt to duplicate the alloy that is Cap's Shield.

Oh, and the Odin-power (wielded by Thor) cracked it

[Blue Jogger]

Kryptonian metal (not to be confused with Kryptonite) was as strong a metal as Superman was super. I believe it's strength was due to the fact that it was many times denser than lead (only a Kyptonian could lift it). Of course, that was back in the Silver Age.

Green Kryptonite made an incredible power source since it was highly radioactive, but it didn't hurt normal humans because all the radiation passed harmlessly through them, yet it could be blocked by lead. (Confusing isn't it?) This is why Metallo has a huge lump of it where his heart should be.

[megaplayboy]

Promethium and Inertron are the two ultra-tough materials in DC. IIRC, promethium is on a par with so-called secondary adamantium, and inertron may actually be tougher than true adamantium.

[Madstone]

Since the Beyonder has already been mentioned, I don't feel so bad about bringing this up...

In the Secret Wars the Hulk managed to haymaker Ultron and dent him. And this was nowhere near maximum Hulk-power.

[Doug McCrae]

Kryptonian metal (not to be confused with Kryptonite) was as strong a metal as Superman was super. I believe it's strength was due to the fact that it was many times denser than lead (only a Kyptonian could lift it). Of course, that was back in the Silver Age.

Wasn't everything from Krypton invulnerable under the light of a yellow sun? Suprman's costume was and hence could survive trips thru the heart of he Sun, to the sea bed, etc, unharmed. Even a piece of paper from Krypton (if they had paper) would've been indestructible. I wonder if a Kryptonian bubble would've been unburstable?

[Whitewings]

Promethium and Inertron are the two ultra-tough materials in DC. IIRC, promethium is on a par with so-called secondary adamantium, and inertron may actually be tougher than true adamantium.

Inertron is an alloy of titanium and five percent dwarf star matter, according to the old LSH sourcebook. A safe that's supposed to be able to hold both Superboy and Mon-El is described as lead-lined and kryptonite-coated, triple steel framed and inertron-sealed. One of the few people who can work the stuff is Grimbor the Chainsman, who used it to restrain Superboy. If it can stand up to Kryptonian strength...