8 by 11 book size

[Thag13]

Hello everyone,

I noticed that the new Codex books for Warhammer and WH40K are in a 8 by 11 "comic book " size. Some one told me that this might be the new size or role playing books to save money on printing.

I have heard that new cheaper printing processes use the 8 by 11 size that really cut printing costs.

the question begs, Does DOJ plan on using this size in the future for its books?

Thank you for your time

[Steve Long]

We have no plans at present to change the size of our books.

[Hugh Neilson]

We have no plans at present to change the size of our books.

I can't imagine how thick Fantasy Hero, say, would be at that format...

8x11x15?

[tomd1969]

Hero's books are already 8 x 11 (or pretty close to it--measure them for yourself. An 8.5 x 11 sheet of paper that is commonly used in many printers and photocopiers isn't much different in size to HSVS, for example). And comic books aren't 8x11--they're closer to 6x10.

[Teflon Billy]

By 8" x 11" do you mean Metric A3 paper? That sounds like what you're describing. That's probably because they may be having their books printed by a foreign printer or printing them for foreign markets. Gamesworkshop is very big internationally.

Every other country on earth uses ISO Standard paper, so get used to it. America will someday succumb to the disease that is metric ;-)

TB

[Fitz]

8"x11" is closer to A4 than A3 -- it's the standard size for printer paper, lecture pads, sketching blocks and what-not out here in the civilised world A4 (210mm x 297mm) is A3 folded in half, A5 is A4 folded in half, and so on.

[Teflon Billy]

Just because I don't respect it doesn't mean I don't know what it is :-P
I know all about how you derive the measurements for A, B and C series paper.
I just got the number wrong, my bad.

And as for that "civilized" world crack. Just remember that metric was invented by the French. I think we're on the side of the angels on this one ;-)

[Hugh Neilson]

And as for that "civilized" world crack. Just remember that metric was invented by the French. I think we're on the side of the angels on this one ;-)

Like champagne. Why is it the US, who went to war to escape British dominion, are about the only country left clinging to English measurement?

[Poster is neither French nor American]

[Teflon Billy]

We still use them for the same reason Europe would never change the unit of length from the meter to the less arbitrary measurement of 1 light-nanosecond (which conveniently is close to the standard foot length). Because it costs enormous amounts of money to retool one of the worlds largest manufacturing bases. Europe had the advantage (if you will) of having a clean slate to start from after WWII.

TB

[Blue]

Like champagne. Why is it the US, who went to war to escape British dominion, are about the only country left clinging to English measurement?

[Poster is neither French nor American]

Spite.

Actually, I remember those attempts in grade school to push us to Metric measurement. I think it stuck with most of us in the class, but then you turn around and leave and everything outside is the old measurment. What's your incentive to use metric when the infrastructure didn't change with you?

Personally, I hate measuring things in, for example, 16ths of an inch.

[JMcL63]

Like champagne. Why is it the US, who went to war to escape British dominion, are about the only country left clinging to English measurement?

Actually, it's the same unit names, but often different sizes, especially in the units used in cookery books! Meahwhile, since the metric system has come up, why is it that HERO is completey metric apart from the use of those darn inches for the combat system? Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to rejig all the powers etc. to have everything in metres, so that players would no longer have to keep 2 separate scales of measurement in their heads: one for the 'real' world, and one for combat.

[Simon]

Actually, it's the same unit names, but often different sizes, especially in the units used in cookery books! Meahwhile, since the metric system has come up, why is it that HERO is completey metric apart from the use of those darn inches for the combat system? Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to rejig all the powers etc. to have everything in metres, so that players would no longer have to keep 2 separate scales of measurement in their heads: one for the 'real' world, and one for combat.

Errr....you do realize that game "inches" refer to a hex map, correct?

Hero is designed to use hexagons for mapping -- 1" across. The scale is metric: 1 hexagon = 2m. For convenience, the hexagons have come to be called inches. One game inch = 2m real world.

Or were you thinking that Dr. Destroyer's mighty Detroyer Beam had a max range of 750 inches (62.5 feet)?

[Solomon]

We still use them for the same reason Europe would never change the unit of length from the meter to the less arbitrary measurement of 1 light-nanosecond (which conveniently is close to the standard foot length). Because it costs enormous amounts of money to retool one of the worlds largest manufacturing bases. Europe had the advantage (if you will) of having a clean slate to start from after WWII.

TB

A minor and a major nitpicking:

The meter's current definition is already based on light-speed, and changing it to 1 light-nanosecond woudn't make it any less arbitrary, since a second is in itself an arbitrary definition.

The metric system was already firmly in place troughout Europe in the second half of the 19th century. Nothing to do with WWII.

[Simon]

A minor and a major nitpicking:

The meter's current definition is already based on light-speed, and changing it to 1 light-nanosecond woudn't make it any less arbitrary, since a second is in itself an arbitrary definition.

The metric system was already firmly in place troughout Europe in the second half of the 19th century. Nothing to do with WWII.

Curiosity is getting the better of me here....and the Nyquil is kicking in too heavily for me to look this up on my own right now

Where are you getting your definition of light nanosecond from? For that matter, where are you getting your definition of nanosecond from? Considering that the speed of light is (roughly) estimated at 299,792,458 m/s, this is a far cry from 1 meter being 1 light nano-second -- 1 nanosecond = 1 billionth of a second = .299792458 meters that light will travel.

So one light nanosecond should be just shy of .3 meters.

[JMcL63]

Errr....you do realize that game "inches" refer to a hex map, correct?

Yes, I do know that Simon. It's just that the game is totally metric, except for the use of inches on the game map. What I was suggesting is that this scale could be dropped and the entire game rendered in metres. One hex could be one metre, and so on. It would make life in HERO just that little bit easier IMO.