Sebastian Shaw?

[excelsior]

I'm new to Champions. I have ordered the books. My question is, is it possible to make a Champions version of Sebastion Shaw also known as the Black King from the Hellfire Club Of the X-men? Somebody mentioned is wasn't possible to do and he has always had one of my favorite powers. How would you write him up, if it is possible?

Thanks.

[AngryBug]

Absorption.
It's the first power listed in FREd.

You'd also want high defenses, probably "only to amount rolled by apsorption, -1/2"...
To be as effective as Shaw would be expensive, but easily written up... Points go to STR, or STR and defenses...

[fbdaury]

Off the top of my head- huge absorption power that absorbs physical attacks to his strength and physical defenses, with huge resistant physical defenses and 75% resistant physical damage reduction. Delayed return rate on the absorption to about five points/five minutes, allowing him to build up and hold his maximum for a while. Doesn't seem hard at all to me

[Hugh Neilson]

Many GM's won't allow this, but Shaw's powers have shown no actual limit. As such, I would add that half his Absorbtion goes to increase his maximum absorbtion, such that his capacity is effectively infinite.

[Steve Long]

If you're willing to wait a few days until The Ultimate Brick shows up at your local game store, it's got a whole slew of pre-generated Sebastian Shaw-style absorption powers. Just take the one you want and define what it affects, and bam! you're good to go.

[Sketchpad]

Sweeeet ... must get TUB!!

[caris]

Many GM's won't allow this, but Shaw's powers have shown no actual limit. As such, I would add that half his Absorbtion goes to increase his maximum absorbtion, such that his capacity is effectively infinite.

While I agree that Shaw hasn't been shown having a limit, I wouldn't necessarily follow it as meaning Shaw has no limit. Shaw isn't the only Marvel character with this particular schtick. The other that comes to mind was/is Maelstorm (I think). I'm only familiar with him from an Avengers' story arc where he rigged a device that allowed him to absorb some of the earth's kinetic energy. The way he was defeated, iIrc, was that he got so much energy that he actually started to grow. He finally grew to the point where his molequles lost cohesion and he drifted apart.

[SleepyDrug]

While I agree that Shaw hasn't been shown having a limit, I wouldn't necessarily follow it as meaning Shaw has no limit. Shaw isn't the only Marvel character with this particular schtick. The other that comes to mind was/is Maelstorm (I think). I'm only familiar with him from an Avengers' story arc where he rigged a device that allowed him to absorb some of the earth's kinetic energy. The way he was defeated, iIrc, was that he got so much energy that he actually started to grow. He finally grew to the point where his molequles lost cohesion and he drifted apart.

Maelstrom later appeared in Quasar. Shaw does have limits....falling from low earth orbit (onto Nimrod) knocked him out. A Champions version of Shaw just needs more dice of absorbtion than you might think to give him

[Agent X]

Sebastian Shaw's absorption powers do have a limit. Anyone remember what happened to a powered up Shaw when Storm hit him with a lightning bolt back in the Byrne/Claremont days?

[fbdaury]

She fried him like a bug, I think. But, his power absorbs physical force, not energy, so how does this show his power to have a limit? I too believe he has a limit, I would have also pointed out the low-orbit power dive that KO'd him- I just wonder why you used that example...

[Hugh Neilson]

She fried him like a bug, I think. But, his power absorbs physical force, not energy, so how does this show his power to have a limit? I too believe he has a limit, I would have also pointed out the low-orbit power dive that KO'd him- I just wonder why you used that example...

There's two types of "limits" addressed here. The first is "can he absorb as much as he's hit with, all in one shot"? No, he can't. So he doesn't have unlimited dice of Absorbtion (good thing - Hero couldn't support that anyway).

The second is, if at a controlled level of per phase kinetic energy, could he keep getting stronger with no theoretical limit? Arguably, yes. We haven't seen a limit. That doesn't mesan none exists. But we can get the effect by directing half the absorbed points to "increased max for absrobtion".

As for Maelstrom, I'd probably give him Unlimited Max, and a nasty Susc to absorbing too much. In fact, I'd probably give that to any character with no theoretical max, just to create some kind of limit, however vast.

[Vorsch]

Characters like Maelstrom cant be built in champions, they are as weak or as powerful as needed. they are purely writer plot device nothing more.

[Agent X]

She fried him like a bug, I think. But, his power absorbs physical force, not energy, so how does this show his power to have a limit? I too believe he has a limit, I would have also pointed out the low-orbit power dive that KO'd him- I just wonder why you used that example...

Sorry then, I inferred that he could absorb more than physical energy. If I get motivated I may go back and read the issue.

[SirViss]

She fried him like a bug, I think. But, his power absorbs physical force, not energy, so how does this show his power to have a limit? I too believe he has a limit, I would have also pointed out the low-orbit power dive that KO'd him- I just wonder why you used that example...

The text associated with that frame implied that the reason that Shaw got fried is that he had absorbed too much energy. I remember reading that frame and asking myself the very same thing. I believe that the writer(s) forgot, for a moment, that the Black King was a kinetic energy absorber.

[Vorsch]

Even so Storms Lightning bolt isint considered a particularly powerful attack, compared to thor or silver surfer any way.