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    [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    As I start to write Western Champions (A hopeful Digital Hero Artivcle) I realise that I will probably have way to much info, so to save space, and get feedback I thought I would cut out of the draft the Champions of the West Superteam, and share it with you find people.

    Please note I am using these 7 heroes as a way to gather my thoughts on the article, so comments are welcome. No name is finalised, these are working names to keep them strait in my head.

    First a synapsosis: The Champions of the west will not start off as a team in the play test adventure, though a web will connect each of them to each other. The story will take place in Hope Springs in the Dakota Territories.

    Defender: Okay I already have his stats up somewhere and his background story partialy done, at the time he was being called crusader. I kind of like using some familiar names, thus Defender. In a nut shell he is a Jack of all trades, good with a gun but not the best, a good fist fighter but not the best, etc... He does probably have the best horse however...

    Seeker: A China Man who has mastered secret arts of fighting the west is not familar with (Kung Fu), he has come to the west looking for something (his wife? Child? to get revenge? not sure what). Essentialy a Wuxia.

    Prarie Rose: Only Female in the group (1800 were somewhat sexist). Mistress of the Lariett. Lives in Hope springs and was inspired when she first heard of Defender

    Deadshot: One of two with actual powers, in his case he regens from death, some rPD/rED, and some Life support. Essentialy he is serching for the man who killed him, so that he can return the favor

    Totem: Okay I hate the name, but he is a white man raised by a tribe of indians. The medicine man has gifted him with a magic cloak that allows him to turn into four animals (Coyote, Eagle, Bear, ???? thinking something like a mouse), also allows him to talk to animals

    Sure Shot: WHile I hate the name Totem, I down right cringe at this one... He is the best shot in the group, he can do things with his guns others can't even dream of.

    Not sure about number seven, but I lean towards a brave...
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Well, to start with I'd ditch the nicknames, at least for the most part. Prairie Rose is a reasonable Old West nickname for a woman named Rose, but for the rest I'd try to keep to normal names with perhaps a sense of synchronicity (like your Sure Shot could instead be Tad Shooter).

    Defender would most likely be a Harmon (assuming you want a Hero Universe tie-in). Since he's too early to be James I, maybe he can be Alexander (a name I like for heroes because it means "helper of men") or Nick (a good traditional macho-guy name; Nicholas means "victorious people," or possibly Dominic for "belonging to the Lord").

    I probably could come up with name suggestions for the whole rest if you want.

    Your Totem guy, instead of using a magic cloak, could actually use Shamanism or some other form of magic from FHG. (I don't actually own that book, so that might not be practical; you'd have to check it yourself.) He could have an Indian as a companion -- not a sidekick, of course, but your seventh PC -- who is a valiant warrior.

    What sort of base point level are you going for here?
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Sorry Bob, I did not make it to clear, these characters are going to be in the mold of the Lone Ranger, Zorro, Two Gun Kid (Marvel), etc... Thus the nicknames, however good names are still being looked for.

    As for the Harmon, great idea, but I think I might just have to go with John Harmon...

    Base points is low super hero so 150 +100 IIRC. They have to buy equipment with points (in otherwords it uses the super level of play).

    I do think the idea of a noble warrior a good idea, and have that kind of as a place holder unless something better comes along (Originaly it was going to be a French Fencer named Renard, but droped him as being to much of a clone of Zorro, with two other clones in the group wanted to avoid that.)
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    For Mr. Harmon, if he's a Jack of all trades, maybe he's Jack Harmon....

    For Deadshot, the name Deadman is a legitimate family name from England. If you don't want Nick for Harmon, maybe he can be Nick Deadman (it has a nicely morbid feel to it).

    Prairie Rose could be Rose... Lawson, perhaps? Or maybe Binder, to tie in with her lariat.

    For some reason I want to give Totem the name of Seamus Irwin. Maybe because Seamus (pronounced "shamus") makes me think of magic, while Irwin is a salute to good old Steve-o.

    Maybe Mike Surbrook or someone can chime in on a good Chinese name for Seeker.
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Okay so so far the names I am borow...Err Blantently ripping off of Bob are:

    Defender: John Haron; Quasi Team Leader, Generalist
    Totem?: Shamus Irvin; Medicine Man (primary combat spell is still Multiform)
    Deadshot? Nick Deadman; Revenge seeking undead gunslinger

    Praire Rose: Rose Moore, Mistress of the lariet
    Seeker: XXXXX, XXX; China man and expert in the ways of Kung Fu
    Red Eagle?: Native Warrior

    XXX XXXX: Jack Spade: Best gunman in the west
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    for some reasion i cant help but see praire rose as a brothel madam. running the lariet saloon and weilding a lasoo and a bull whip to keep unruly customers in line.

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    Smoke Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Heh JmOz, I like the concept, but the Gunslinger sounds almost like an Immortal, Revenant, or Lazarus. My haps he bears a artifact that prevents him from dying or was cursed. Perhaps he is a Voodoo Petro Zombie free of the Hougans control.

    Deadshot? Nick Deadman; Revenge seeking undead gunslinger

    Until we meet again

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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Quote Originally Posted by freakboy6117
    for some reasion i cant help but see praire rose as a brothel madam. running the lariet saloon and weilding a lasoo and a bull whip to keep unruly customers in line.

    That's funny as I see ehr as a School teacher, all prim and proper, that the reason she wears a mask is because she is afraid of uit underminding her postion in town as a good woman...
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Could Jack Spade just go without a nickname? Even in modern comics, there's the occasional hero who just goes by his (or her) regular name (Johnny Thunder, Alex Luthor, Jean Grey).
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    I'm thinking so right now, it makes sense that not all of them would be SI
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Quote Originally Posted by JmOz
    I'm thinking so right now, it makes sense that not all of them would be SI
    And generally they're the gunslinger. Jack Spade, the gambler gunslinger. I mean, some of them used epithets. Bill Hickock went by Wild Bill Hickock. So, Jack Spade could be... Lucky Jack? Give him some luck in addition to his gun abilities. Possibly?

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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

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    <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right"><font size=2><b>Val&#160;&#160;</b></font></td><td><font size=2><b>Char&#160;&#160;&#160;</b></font></td><td><font size=2><b>Cost</b></font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>20&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>STR</b></font></td><td><font size=2>10</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>29&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>DEX</b></font></td><td><font size=2>57</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>20&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>CON</b></font></td><td><font size=2>20</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>15&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>BODY</b></font></td><td><font size=2>10</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>13&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>INT</b></font></td><td><font size=2>3</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>13&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>EGO</b></font></td><td><font size=2>6</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>15&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>PRE</b></font></td><td><font size=2>5</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>10&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>COM</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td><font size=2></font></td><td><font size=2>&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2></font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>4&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>PD</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>4&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>ED</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>6&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>SPD</b></font></td><td><font size=2>21</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>8&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>REC</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>40&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>END</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>35&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>STUN</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><td><font size=2></font></td><td><font size=2>&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2></font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>6"&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>RUN</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>2"&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>SWIM</b></font></td><td><font size=2>0</font></td></tr><tr><td align="right"><font size=2>15"&#160;&#160;</font></td><td><font size=2><b>LEAP</b></font></td><td><font size=2>1</font></td></tr></table><b>Characteristics Cost:</b> 133

    <table border="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td align="right"><b>Cost&#160;&#160;</b></td><td><b>Power</b></td><td align="right"><b>END</b></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">15&#160;&#160;</td><td><b><i>Staff: </i></b>Multipower, 30-point reserve, (30 Active Points); all slots OAF (-1)&#160;</td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">1u&#160;&#160;</td><td>1) HA +4d6, Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (30 Active Points); HA (-1/2)&#160;</td><td valign="top" align="right">0</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">1u&#160;&#160;</td><td>2) Missile Deflection (Bullets & Shrapnel), Adjacent Hex (+1/2) (22 Active Points)&#160;</td><td valign="top" align="right">0</td></tr><tr><td align="right" valign="top">1u&#160;&#160;</td><td>3) Leaping +10" (14" forward, 7" upward), Reduced Endurance (0 END; +1/2) (15 Active Points)&#160;</td><td valign="top" align="right"></td></tr></table><b>Powers Cost:</b> 18

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    <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right"><b>Cost&#160;&#160;</b></td><td><b>Skill</b></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>KS: Kung Fu (INT-based) 12-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Analyze: Combat 12-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10&#160;&#160;</td><td>Defense Maneuver I-IV &#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>PS: Carpenter (INT-based) 12-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Acrobatics 15-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Breakfall 15-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Climbing 15-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Contortionist 15-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">3&#160;&#160;</td><td>Sleight Of Hand 15-&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">2&#160;&#160;</td><td>Language: English (fluent conversation)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">6&#160;&#160;</td><td>WF: Common Martial Arts Melee Weapons, Common Melee Weapons, Common Missile Weapons&#160;</td></tr></table><b>Skills Cost: </b>42


    <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right"><b>Cost&#160;&#160;</b></td><td><b>Talent</b></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">12&#160;&#160;</td><td>Combat Luck (6 PD/6 ED)&#160;</td></tr></table><b>Talents Cost:</b> 12


    <b>Total Character Cost:</b> 250

    <table cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td align="right"><b>Val&#160;&#160;</b></td><td><b>Disadvantages</b></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10&#160;&#160;</td><td>DF: Asian (Concealable; Always Noticed and Causes Major Reaction; Detectable By Commonly-Used Senses; Not Distinctive In Some Cultures)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10&#160;&#160;</td><td>DF: Style (Not Concealable; Noticed and Recognizable; Detectable By Large Group)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10&#160;&#160;</td><td>Hunted: Loyd Gang 8- (As Pow, Harshly Punish)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20&#160;&#160;</td><td>Hunted: Imperial Guardsman 8- (Mo Pow, NCI, Harshly Punish)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">5&#160;&#160;</td><td>Money: Poor&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">15&#160;&#160;</td><td>Psych. Lim.: Code Vs. Killing (Common, Strong)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">20&#160;&#160;</td><td>Psych. Lim.: Code of the Wuxia (Very Common, Strong)&#160;</td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="right">10&#160;&#160;</td><td>Psych. Lim.: Looking for Child (Common, Moderate)&#160;</td></tr></table>
    <b>Disadvantage Points:</b> 100

    <b>Base Points:</b> 150
    <b>Experience Required:</b> 0
    <b>Total Experience Available:</b> 0
    <b>Experience Unspent:</b> 0
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Suggestions and notes on Seeker's sheet:

    1) For publication purposes, each slot in the Multipower should have a name -- say, Strike, Deflection, and Pole Vault.

    2) Replace the Chain & Rope Weapons element with Clubs. That's good for improvised weapons of opportunity.

    3) The DF: Asian should probably be a Social Limitation.

    4) Lloyd is spelled with two L's (it's Welsh).

    5) Maybe you could sacrifice two or three maneuvers for a wuxia "kung fu trick" or two?
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    1) Good catch on the naming of the slots Strike, Block & Vault

    2) Done, no question about it. You are 100% right

    3) I was going back and forth on the DF or Social Limitation (originaly he actualy had two, one was DF asian, the other was SL:minority, but decided it was double dipping). It is a hard line to draw where one ends the other begins. I will consider it. I might also just give him both, with the SL being priced at the 5 for extrem reactions, same point total so a little bit of how it looks

    4) Thank you

    5) Will look through my UMA 4th, UMA 5th, and Ninja Hero 5th for ideas, and go from there. However I will lean away from the more extreme tricks (No Chi blasts or what have you)


    I might even drop his Kung Fu and give him a Kung Fu MP instead (HA, HKA, Etc) and skill levels...
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    Re: [Western Champions] Chamions of the West Super Team

    Quote Originally Posted by JmOz
    Okay so so far the names I am borow...Err Blantently ripping off of Bob are:

    Red Eagle?: Native Warrior
    Hrm. Should I feel blessed to have my name so blatently ripped off? Not that that means I disapprove mind you...

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