Universal Framework Proposition [LONG]

[Doc Democracy]

Without seeing several more examples and having a chance to test it my comments are limited.

That is the problem - it is severely lacking playtesting. Neither Zornwil or I have been able to devote the necessary time, so all costs etc are provisional on that and suggested by relating the costs to multipowers and ECs.

1. Am I correct that you purchase 1) the pool, 2) the number of potential powers that can be run at a given time, and 3) the individual powers?

I'm presuming that you are looking at the post at the top of page one - that was changed in post 52 of that thread that brought it to the state as posted by Christopher in his thread.

Anyway. 1) You purchase the pool, 2) you purchase slots into which you can place power effects (one slot would not be limited to a single power depending on the type of slot you bought), 3) you purchase the active point limit for a slot (which might be one power, a tight group of powers or a broad group of powers).

What we wanted to do was, in effect construct a framewrok power where you might have different ways of exploiting a particular SFX without having to break it up into seperate frameworks to keep it point competitive.

1. Why are limitations marked with "+" and running up to 9. I'm confused by it because 1) its not standard hero notation, and 2) I've seldom seen any advantage or limitation that ran that high. Are they really adders?

Well - I moved away from that 9 and I was using very old Hero notation where limitations were + and advantages were x - 2nd edition I think. It has stayed in my head. I hope that the notation used in post 52 is clearer.

With those questions asked I have one comment, which has been stated by others:

1. The costing needs to be considered very carefully - right now its undercosted (IMO)*.

Of course, I don't really understand the notation being used, so I could be totally wrong...

I think we eventually made things more costly but we do still need that to be tested for play purposes


Doc

[Vondy]

Anyway. 1) You purchase the pool, 2) you purchase slots into which you can place power effects (one slot would not be limited to a single power depending on the type of slot you bought), 3) you purchase the active point limit for a slot (which might be one power, a tight group of powers or a broad group of powers).

Based on your explanation and post 52 I have it clear in my head now. I think, on a structural level, you've succeeded. It would have to survive play-testing, but I think its workable (and does streamline the system).

Well - I moved away from that 9 and I was using very old Hero notation where limitations were + and advantages were x - 2nd edition I think. It has stayed in my head. I hope that the notation used in post 52 is clearer.

Yes, clearer. Thank you.

[zornwil]

You're not as prolific as you were at one point, there is less opportunity for us to cross at the same time!

You got real life stuff to do now?


Doc

Yeah (pardon the OT, will keep it brief), my role at work has changed, basically from a project/"business solutions" management in IT (basically managing portfolio of efforts for a few business segments) to systems architecture (I"m a "Senior Enterprise Architect" or some similar title), and I'm doing really interesting stuff but extremely time-consuming at the moment. The work is good enough I don't especially mind the lack of free time (whereas last year I really was only rarely busy and had gotten quite bored at my job, breeding annoyance). So good stuff. Between my wife's business (calligraphy, she just started doing it full-time self-employed professionally a year ago and so she's still building it) and all my work we had to put off the trip over there another year. I hope the S.O., child, and house and whatever comes with that are all good (you're still working for Parliament, too, right?).