What's wrong with Palladium?

[incrdbil]

I've always been amazed that Palladium could come up with so many neat ideas, and get ahold of so many licenses but completely fail in their implementation. I tried several of thier games over the years but never found one that worked for me.

It really disturbed me to see what they did to Recon, buy out a game about the Vietnam war, then completely sanitize the background into some sort of Hollywood version of the war. I keep hoping that with Paladiums troubles that game will escape their clutches, and get to someone who will treat it right.

Well, hopefully, someday Kevin will go nuts, sell out, or otherwise sell off the rights, then someone can go in, sift through the mounds of material, keep the decent books and background, rip out that pathetic joke of a system and replace it with anything else. Part of me would laugh if Palladium games were 'upgraded' to the d20 system.

[Greywind]

With the level system that Palladium is, it is almost already there...

[The Main Man]

D20 would sadly be an upgrade...

[bubba smith]

whats sad about it?

[Lord Liaden]

This place isn't exactly a stronghold of D20 love.

[Thia Halmades]

We're a bastion for healthy role playing, this is true, but the inherent class-based design and inability to draft new, functional things against any kind of tool kit (metrics? Yes. Tool kit? No.) leads to frustration among HERO gamers. Palladium is built on a grossly modified d20 model from the AD&D days, and never improved on it. Hence, d20 would (sadly) be an improvement.

[Lord Mhoram]

Well, hopefully, someday Kevin will go nuts, sell out, or otherwise sell off the rights,

Kevin has said that if Palladium went down, he would never sell rights. He would keep them no matter what.

[mayapuppies]

He's a tenacious little S.O.B. I'll give him that. Unfortunately his manner of stubbornness is very similar to a spoiled 2 year old.

[incrdbil]

Kevin has said that if Palladium went down, he would never sell rights. He would keep them no matter what.

Ah yes, the 'better to let something die off and not be available to others if I can't control it all' school of thought. How do peop[el trot out the 'he's looking out for the players' argument with that attitude on the books?
What a sad little man.

[The Main Man]

What I wish that he could realize is that since he based his rules off of D&D no one would think less of him if he at least went to D20.


If anything he'll probably get some praise (hardcore fans notwithstanding).


I seriously don't see a downside for him to convert to D20 (assuming that it's not a half-ass job) since it is still a supported system in the wake of D&D 4th edition.

[Supreme Serpent]

Kevin has said that if Palladium went down, he would never sell rights. He would keep them no matter what.

If he got hungry, I suspect he would change his mind. If not, it would be a self-correcting issue.

[Vulcan]

Actually it would be brilliant for him to do so.

Then he could sell what is essentially the same material, twice.

And this time it might even be useable.

[The Main Man]

Buh-Zing!

[bubba smith]

We're a bastion for healthy role playing, this is true, but the inherent class-based design and inability to draft new, functional things against any kind of tool kit (metrics? Yes. Tool kit? No.) leads to frustration among HERO gamers. Palladium is built on a grossly modified d20 model from the AD&D days, and never improved on it. Hence, d20 would (sadly) be an improvement.

thanks thia

[The Main Man]

Keep in mind that Palladium was my first RPG exposure but I have moved quite beyond that since I was 14.