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    Need help with speedster

    We are playing a game where one of the players isn't horribly familiar with the system and wants to play a speedster. I was going to make the speedster for him. There is only one problem, I've never done a speedster before. The characters are built on 300 points, 200 base 100 disadvantages. Can anyone help me with this?
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Hmmm, perhaps he could have a Purple Wolf emblazed upon his costume, and maybe he should speak in a gruff and hearty manner.

    Speedsters are all about ONE THING. Hand to hand attack with area effect: selective.

    Your turn, what do you do?

    Hmmm, I think Purple Wolf is going to punch, EVERYONE!!!!!!!

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Well, If you have CKC, there's Thunderbolt 2. Or, if you have CU, there's Kinetik. You could modify either of those to fit rather than make one from scratch.
    Or, if you have the USPD, there's a speedster section where you could cobble together powers (maybe into a framework) and then flesh out the stats on your own.
    Hope that helps.
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    I know for a fact that Reneshat has Hero 5th edition, Dark Champions and nothing else.

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    I also know for a fact that the player is the type who is going to get bored if he doesn't have options, so it needs to be a character that can do A LOT of stuff.

    No power pools though, the GM does NOT like them.

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Quote Originally Posted by paigeoliver
    I know for a fact that Reneshat has Hero 5th edition, Dark Champions and nothing else.
    Bummer.
    Well, Reneshat, not knowing anything about your game, specifically, all I can do is make general suggestions.
    1) high dex
    2) high spd
    3) lots of movement (running or flt-only usable when in contact with a surface)
    4) Paigeolivers suggestion of an AoE (selective) hand attack is a good thought.
    5) autofire hand attack.
    6) maybe some defensive levels.
    Good Luck.
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Quote Originally Posted by paigeoliver
    I also know for a fact that the player is the type who is going to get bored if he doesn't have options, so it needs to be a character that can do A LOT of stuff.

    No power pools though, the GM does NOT like them.
    Might I suggest a Multipower. They are delicious.
    Something like a 50 or 60 active point MP with ultra slots. Powers in the MP could be:
    desolid-vibrate at superspeed
    hand attack autofire-rapid punching
    hand attack AoE (selective)-punch 'em all
    non combat running (or flight)
    megascale running (or flight)
    dex drain (requires a dex roll)-tornado spin
    nnd eb-sonic boom
    tk AoE (only to disarm)-run around and take the bad guy's weapons
    healing
    lightning calculator
    speed reading
    lightning reflexes
    Hope this helps.
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    When I play my speedster, it's all about the move-by and move-through. The character has armor on his arms that help minimize the damage he takes from the maneuvers, and at around 300 points he's capable of doing around 15d6 of damage without pushing. It's a similar idea to the AoE/selective attack, but I think a bit more realistic about having to get up a good head of steam before doing significant damage.

    I would also recommend missile deflect and/or desolid.
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    New player? Keep it relatively simple. Lots of Dex, Spd, and Running plus a Multipower of straightforward Speedster Tricks.

    For instance:
    A suite of Advantaged HtH Attacks, AP for "Hypersonic One-Punching," extra KB for "Put Your Weight Behind It," AoE for "Punch Them All, Let God Sort 'Em Out," and the like.
    Stretching with "Must be able to reach target on foot" Limitation for "Detour Attack."
    Megascale Running for "Really Pour It On."
    Self-only Healing for "Metabolic Acceleration."

    Sounds like rich options with all the mechanics pre-calculated will probably make this guy a convert to Herodom.
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Quote Originally Posted by Reneshat
    We are playing a game where one of the players isn't horribly familiar with the system and wants to play a speedster. I was going to make the speedster for him. There is only one problem, I've never done a speedster before. The characters are built on 300 points, 200 base 100 disadvantages. Can anyone help me with this?
    Besides having a high Dex and a high Speed, give him a multipower of "superspeed" effects. For instance:

    Hand Attack, Area Effective, Selective (he can zoom around and punch lots of guys in a large area "all at once").

    Hand Attack, Lots of Dice (he uses the guy's face like a speedbag).

    Short-range Teleport (he moves faster than the eye can see)

    Missile Deflection/Reflection (he dodges bullets or catches them and throws them back at the bad guy)

    Desolidification (he can dodge bullets like Neo in the Matrix)

    There are lots of possibilities....

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    You could give him a Hand to Hand only Energy attack also, special effect : Super speedy rubbing friction heats up the target.

    You could give him some static electricity effects, recharged by running far/fast enough to build up his charge again (this could also be a bit of a disadvantage, if he couldnt opt -not- to use it. Better remember to ground himself after a good run before touching anything he doesnt want zapped!)

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Several board members have posted good speedsters to the board as well as their own websites. Take a look at this writeup of Flash. Also, take a look at the link in my sig below for the New Circle and look for the character named Always. There is a good 350 as well as 750 point furture version listed.HM

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    I would first ask them what it is they want from playing a speedster, and give them that (within usual limitations for points and/or effectiveness) and only that. I don't know how experienced the player is, but it sounds like they don't know the system very well. Players like that can bog down a game simply because they don't know what they can do and are overloaded with options. Keep it simple.

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    Re: Need help with speedster

    I'm agreeing with Supreme...I used to use a speedster as a Try it out character.....some running, clinging:Must 1/2 move or full move a HA and a speed of 9...having a speed of 9 lets you do tons of stuff and lets you waste phase doing goofy stuf with little penalty...a perfect "new guy" char.....
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    Re: Need help with speedster

    Well, if you want a character to look at and use for some ideas, I have a 350 point Speedster Villain I made for one of my Champions games. He's not as fleshed out as I like, and I haven't written up his background on the character sheet I've put up, but he should suffice for sparking ideas.

    His name is Speed Demon, and he can be found here.
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