Unstoppable

[Eyendasky80]

I'm building Juggernaut who's schtick is being completely unstoppable. So I was thinking about using tunneling, above ground only, to represent his busting down walls and such. But, can you only "tunnel" when you are physically breaking through a wall/obstacle? I'd like to be able to do move thoughs through walls and characters in one attack. Like a super move through. So I was thinking if you could, it'd be worth the points to buy enough tunneling (especially after disads) to do effective movethroughs that cut through walls and other obstacles like butter. What do you think? Can't recall if it's even legal, but I doubt it.

[Hawksmoor]

Without the book in front of me I think that it is legal. I wouldn't apply the limitation Above ground only though, but more on that later. Tunnelling is a movement power, pure and simple. Therefore there should be no concerns about using tunnelling in a movethrough. OTOH what is air but a 0DEF 0Body obstacle anyway?

Now why don't you want to apply the Limitation? Because dropping buildings on you, falling into wet cement and the like are (should) be common parts of Juggernauts day. Hence you should be able to shoulder your way through them with ease. Hence Tunnelling. Say 7" through 31 DEF it will only cost you a mere 107 CP but nothing on the globe would stop you! Not even those pesky entangles!

Hawksmoor

[Supreme Serpent]

Tunnelling's movement, right? What would be the problem doing a move-through with it? Not the most common use, granted, but how common is tunnelling to begin with?

[Eyendasky80]

Some limitation should be legal without sacrificing bulldozing out of stuff dropped on you. He doesn't dig, so the power is less effective for him.

[fbdaury]

Extra strength, only while in motion(-1/2), lots and lots of extra strength, only for casual strength(-1/2), only to break/destroy obstacles without stopping(-1/2), etc.

[Eyendasky80]

Thought of that, then thought of tunnelling. Once I'm clear on what's legal, I'll look at what's the most effective/economic way to do it.

[BlackCobra]

Tunneling, schmunneling --- I say, do everything with Casual Strength.

Just make sure Juggernaut has enough raw strength (he's supposed to be super-duper strong, right?) to simply bull through walls without stopping. If you can go through it with your casual strength, you don't have to stop.

[OddHat]

I pretty much agree with the Causal STR idea. He does not tunnel. Give him the maximum STR you allow in your campaign, say 120 for example. Now give him +60 STR, No Figured Characteristics, Casual STR only (-1). Massive KB resistance (-24" or so) would help as well.

[Kal'daka]

I gave him a 250 STR... plus rege augmented STR for his brick tricks

[Kristopher]

250?

[Tech]

I gave him a 250 STR... plus rege augmented STR for his brick tricks

I hope that full 250 Str isn't usuable against heroes.

"50d6 Punch at you - you're splatted."

[Kal'daka]

I had a PC create a race known as Golemians.... they average 100 - 200 STR plus high PD and Damage reduction Physical... 250 did not seem like a stretch for the Juggernaugt.. in Marvel terms he had a Class 1000 STR

[Rapier]

"50d6 Punch at you - you're splatted."

While I have that many dice in my bag...I would hate to have to roll em. Can you imagine the 4 minutes it would take to calc BODY?

I think 250 is a bit...overzealuous. Isnt that a lifting of like 1 trillion tons or something? 50d6 is approaching, if not over your average planet buster, neh?

[WhammeWhamme]

While I have that many dice in my bag...I would hate to have to roll em. Can you imagine the 4 minutes it would take to calc BODY?

I think 250 is a bit...overzealuous. Isnt that a lifting of like 1 trillion tons or something? 50d6 is approaching, if not over your average planet buster, neh?

26,843,545,600,000 tons (I may be off by a few doublings)

So significantly beyond 1 trillion tons.

[Rapier]

26,843,545,600,000 tons (I may be off by a few doublings)

So significantly beyond 1 trillion tons.

Yeah, I knew I was lowballing it. 200 STR is like 250 million tons.

At any rate. 250 STR is a mite excessive. What's the mass of the moon?