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    Greetings, Herophiles! We wanted to talk to all of you about a change in our sales strategy that we're introducing, effective today.

    First, a little background. Those of you who pay attention to the gaming industry probably heard the news in early January about how Guardians Of Order was scaling back operations drastically. Up until then, GOO was a small company — about Hero's size, in fact. Now it's a company of one, struggling to survive in the gaming industry. All the people at GOO are our friends, and we wish them the best going forward. But more to the point, we don't want something similar to happen to us.

    While we haven't suffered from the American/Canadian exchange rate problems that have plagued GOO (which is located near Toronto), the steady downturn in RPG sales over the past 18 months or so has really begun to put the squeeze on us. It doesn't seem to have much to do with us in particular — nearly every company in the industry's feeling the pinch. Nor does it have anything to do with the specific books we've chosen to publish during that time; from, say, 2002 and early 2003, our sales are down proportionately across the board, regardless of product line or subject matter. We could discuss a lot of theories about the situation, but regardless of what explanation you prefer, RPG sales are far below what they were even a couple of years ago.

    As we told you when DOJ bought the Hero Games assets three years ago, we're in this for the long haul — and that remains true. We want Hero Games to be an ongoing concern, able to publish high-quality RPG products month after month, year after year, without any difficulties. While we're not in trouble yet, from our position in the cockpit, Steve and I can see the ground getting a lot closer than we're comfortable with. If things keep going the way they are, the blunt truth is that Hero Games won't remain an ongoing concern — it will, sooner or later, grind to a halt. The way things stand right now, sales of our books simply aren't high enough to sustain the company in the long term.

    To keep the unthinkable from happening, we've come up with a lot of ideas and strategies to try to improve our efficiency and, most importantly, increase revenue. A lot of them are behind-the-scenes sorts of things that won't necessarily be apparent to you, the fan and customer. But there are two of them that focus specifically on you, and that's what this (now rather long-winded) announcement's all about.

    There are two things we'd like you to consider doing to help Hero Games keep going along the road it's been traveling for the past three years:

    1. If you can, please buy more books. We understand that many of you can only buy a certain number of books, and we definitely appreciate that you spend some of your hard-earned dollars with us. But if you're considering buying some of our books that you don't already have yet, now would be a very good time.

    2. More importantly, please consider buying your books directly from us, through the Online Store (or, if appropriate, at a convention where we've got a booth.) This is one of the real linchpins of our new strategy, for the simple reason that we make a lot more money per book that we sell directly than we do on books sold through distributors and retail stores.

    As many of you know, in the past, we've encouraged our customers to buy from local retailers instead of buying from us, offering the Online Store as a sort of last resort for people who didn't have a local retailer they wanted to shop with. We still believe that quality, professionally-run retail gaming stores are an important part of the RPG industry, and we still intend to sell our books through them. But the simple truth of the matter is that sales of our books through traditional methods isn't going to support Hero Games in the long term (not unless there's a rebound in the size of the RPG market, as some people believe there will be). Therefore we're reversing our policy and saying: if you can, please buy books from our Online Store (or our convention booth) instead of any other source.

    The way the distributor-retailer sales system works, we only get a percentage of the cover price for each book. When sales are relatively strong, as they were in 2002 and early 2003, that's enough to sustain a company of Hero's size. But when they take a dip — and over the past 18 months they've certainly taken a dip — supporting Hero Games starts to become problematic.

    Sales through the Online Store don't suffer that problem. We get 100% of the cover price of a book. Keeping the company going on that amount of money is much easier. For example, if even half of you who now buy our books from retailers were to switch to buying from our Online Store, it would increase the amount of revenue we earn per book by 75%!

    To encourage Online Store sales, we're taking several steps:

    1. Effective immediately, we're going to start putting all of our books in the Online Store as soon as they become available to retailers. We are not going to make them available before retailers get them — that wouldn't be fair — but we're not going to delay for a month or more the way we have in the past.

    2. We will no longer charge shipping and handling on Online Store sales of more than $20 US (which is to say, virtually all of our sales, since any book we sell costs more than that). If we're going to ask you to buy from us instead of them, it's only fair that you not have to pay more to do so. So, no matter whether you buy one book or ten, they'll come right to your door for the same price you'd pay at a store.

    3. We are going to offer for sale more Online Store-only items, primarily PDFs of existing books and related products. We're getting that started today with the release of The Ultimate Martial Artist on PDF, and we'll roll out others in rough order of how well they've sold as we have time — we don't want to bring the production schedule to a halt just to produce PDFs, particularly when getting one ready only takes a little time and can easily be fitted in between other projects.

    4. We're going to devise more bundles and other "buy a group of related items together for a discount" packages.

    5. As part of our new PDF push, we're revising our policy on multiple downloads of our electronic products: you'll now be able to make multiple downloads if you like. That way if you lose a PDF for some reason, you can get a replacement without any difficulty. Similarly, if we get reports of errors or problems in a PDF, or want to correct newly-found typos, we can make the changes, and you can download the new version if you'd like to

    So that's pretty much where things stand at this point. We hope you'll be able to help out and shift at least some of your purchases to the Online Store so we can keep revenues high enough to see us through the tough times to what we hope will be much better times in the future. As always, thanks for your enthusiasm and your support. dw
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    I saw the title of this thread and though "Oh crap". At least it wasn't as bad as I feared. Glad to see you guys are looking ahead, and hope everything works well.
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    Re: Announcement From Hero Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Watts
    2. We will no longer charge shipping and handling on Online Store sales of more than $20 US (which is to say, virtually all of our sales, since any book we sell costs more than that). If we're going to ask you to buy from us instead of them, it's only fair that you not have to pay more to do so. So, no matter whether you buy one book or ten, they'll come right to your door for the same price you'd pay at a store.
    But... But... But...

    *breaks down into tears*

    Despite my reaction, this is very funny in its iront. I only recently was given the okay to buy a book or two depending on cost. I prefer giving you guys the money so I check out the books and the price. The shipping on top of the price for the two books pushed me above my maximum limit so I had to stick with one.

    Excuse me while I beat my head into the wall.

    But on a side note, thank you very much for no longer guilting me into buying my books elsewhere. I prefer giving you guys my money.
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    Very interesting news. Slightly unsettling, but interesting.

    Thank you very much for explaining the situation to us, Darren. Keeping your fans apprised of developments has been a hallmark of DoJ. I also have to say that this highlights one more reason why I think the new Hero Games is a more stable operation than many other companies in the industry. You guys have business experience, and actually run this concern like a business instead of a hobby.

    As a Canadian the cost of RPG books imported from the United States has always been a significant factor in my buying practices because of the exchange rate; but I've noticed that retailers often haven't taken the recent lowering of the exchange rate into account, so that cover prices are higher than the current rate would justify. When you add the universal Sales Tax here to that figure, some books have just been prohibitively pricey for my budget.

    OTOH things like shipping costs and duty have added enough to my costs to ordering directly from the publisher that I've usually avoided doing so. Now that you guys have eliminated that for your products I'll definitely be looking to buy more from you directly.

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    No problem. Anything I can do to support HERO I always try and thanks for giving us this heads up.

    I usually by from FRP games, but will now start buying from the Online Store.

    One thing about shipping, what will standard shipping be USPS Priority? Also, will we have the option of paying more for quicker shipping? (I admit I HATE waiting for a book.)
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    Oh crap. I just ordered Hudson City from my FLGS yesterday.
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    Not to worry, Treb or anyone else. If you want to help out by ordering from the Online Store in the future, that'd be great. But no need to feel guilty about things that took place before our announcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herolover
    No problem. Anything I can do to support HERO I always try and thanks for giving us this heads up.

    I usually by from FRP games, but will now start buying from the Online Store.
    Ditto that. It's good to know that we can actually do something to help.

    Let's also get some nice convention games going, both scheduled and informal, and show off all the tools at our disposal. If a GM sits down with a bunch of HD-generated, neatly printed character sheets, or starts an informal game of FH with both FHGs on hand, that should raise the image a bit, at least as far as popularity within the RPG community.

    For helping RPGing in general... maybe we can discuss that in another thread.
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    As much as I would love to purchase direct from HERO Games, it is not going to happen for me. Sorry, but I live in Canada and I have just had one too many headaches from doing mail order from the US (with other companies that is).

    Anyway, I will pickup some of the PDFs. Downloads are must better, I can avoid the two sales taxes plus duty, that I would with mail order.

    Good luck with the new policies.
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    Let's also get some nice convention games going, both scheduled and informal, and show off all the tools at our disposal. If a GM sits down with a bunch of HD-generated, neatly printed character sheets, or starts an informal game of FH with both FHGs on hand, that should raise the image a bit, at least as far as popularity within the RPG community.
    An excellent idea. It's difficult to generalize about anything in gaming, but based on "industry experience," and certainly in my own experience as a veteran both of freelancing and full-time employment with several major RPG companies, by far the most common way that people learn games and get into gaming is by learning from other gamers. Every campaign I've ever been a part of that had as its premise "we'll attract lots of newcomers to gaming!" or even "we'll get lots and lots of gamers to start using our system!" has failed -- newcomers and new users alike tend to come to a system gradually and in small numbers, by being exposed to it by other gamers.
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    Will the free shipping offer be applied to international orders as well? I live near Toronto and was thinking of ordering a damaged copy of 5ER (don't mind the damaged stuff myself).

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    Perfect timing!

    First, thanks for the update and overall state-of-the-biz breakdown. I think it's cool that y'all are keeping the fans in the loop instead of letting things leak out (as they have with other companies in the past).

    Also, to reference my opening comment, I'm gettin' a much better tax return than I expected, so it's time to catch up on those few books I don't have.

    Are you gonna get more FReDs in soon? I gave mine away earlier this month. If not I'll try and find it somewhere else (cuz I wants it, my precioussssss), but if you think it'll be in soon I can wait a bit.

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    Re: Announcement From Hero Games

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Long
    Not to worry, Treb or anyone else. If you want to help out by ordering from the Online Store in the future, that'd be great. But no need to feel guilty about things that took place before our announcement.
    I'd always bought from my FLGS mostly because Hero Games asked us to do so. It's much more convenient for me to order direct and have the book delivered to me than to make the 30 mile round trip from my apartment to pick up books at my FLGS.

    So don't worry, I'll be buying direct from now on.
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    Re: Announcement From Hero Games

    Just to reiterate the previous question about international shipping really. I live in the UK and buy every release you guys do. If you can afford to offer free international shipping I've no problem with buying direct if it helps your margins.

    Good luck!

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    No, we'll still be charging the shipping for international orders- it's too much cash for us to eat. There won't be any additional "handling" charge, though- we're eliminating any of that across the board. dw
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