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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    The bit about doubling the number of items for +5 points is described in the rulebook at the very start of Chapter 4, Equipment, under "Building And Buying Equipment" beginning on 5ER p. 456. Note that this is an optional rule; if you (and your GM) prefer to pay full price for two guns, for example, you should go with that.

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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Von D-Man
    So, basically, you want a Hero System GUI.

    Sad, but true: my beloved Hero is the CLI of the RPG world.


    Huh????? What's a GUI and a CLI???? OOps nevermind just read it on page 1 of this thread...

    Basically what I want is to be able to fill in a few boxes with stats, powers or equipment; hit a button and poof it comes up with a character...
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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Quote Originally Posted by GOmezy3k
    Huh????? What's a GUI and a CLI????
    Graphical User Interface.
    Command Line Interface.

    Long ago, in the computing dark ages, their was a thing colloquially referred to as a DOS-Prompt, but more accurately, a command line interface. In this rather unfriendly environ the user would enter commands, in computer language, to get the computer to do something. These commands were often, and often remain, a pain in the tuches.

    Then some bright lad said, wouldn't it be cool if we could just put up a bunch of pictures (icons) and make a computer go with some sort of point-and-click device. This user friendly environment, which can be operated without typing commands, is called a Graphical User Interface.

    I assume you are running Windows, which is a graphical user interface. Lets conduct an exercise:

    Open your start menu and click run.
    In the Run prompt, type cmd. The CLI appears.

    Note: if cmd didn't work, type try command.

    If you know DOS and the basics of the CLI, you can make your computer do everything you can do with the GUI. Its a direct tap to real ultimate computer nerd power.

    Now, to complete our exercise, imagine that, when you booted your computer, the only thing that appeared was the CLI. Imagine, to locate files, launch programs, print, or do anything else, you had to tell the computer to do it with the CLI. Not so user friendly, but it also gives you commands allowing you to do some really cool stuff thats a pain in the GUI.

    That's Hero. The CLI of the gaming world.

    What you are asking for is a GUI. A crib sheet that saves you the time of all that typing. Hero GUI: .45 Automatic, 7+1 Rounds, 2d6 RKA, 11 Points.
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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Quote Originally Posted by GOmezy3k
    Basically what I want is to be able to fill in a few boxes with stats, powers or equipment; hit a button and poof it comes up with a character...
    That's what prefabs and Character Packs are for, all right.
    If you can afford the $UNTIL Superpowers Database and Fantasy Hero Grimoire packs, you can get your powers or spells pre-built.

    Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any prefabs for guns, melee weapons, or bows & crossbows (other than the Gear or Firearms prefabs in the Free Stuff section, which are strictly from FREd, not any other sourcebooks).
    The Terran Empire / Spacer's Toolkit pack does have a bunch of science fiction equipment, though.
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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    everyone else has covered the cost for ya... my $.02 says that you'll be happier in the long run reading through the rules and getting a basic understanding of them rather than buying every book full of prefabs that comes out. Even if you just pick up a copy of Sidekick, it'll make you more comfortable with the system in the long run. All the gobblety gook becomes rather important to the game, tho if you strictly plan on ONLY playing, and are willing to always follow your GM's lead, then you could probably get by with never learning the system. But you may never really be satisfied with the system. Your opinion may change after you've played for a while. As a good stopgap, rather than asking your GM and fellow players "how" to buy a particular peice of equipment (and then getting a long discourse in HERO-speak) just ask them for a write up, which you can then plug into HD. HD makes character creation easier, but it still presupposes some knowledge of system mechanics. It is possible to enjoy gaming in the Hero System wiythout ever learning character creation, but it takes a particular type of player (Our old campaign had one...a great roleplayer, but couldn't give two squirts aboiut the rules... she'd just tell me what she wanted a character to be able to do, and I'd write it up. Even so, after a couple of years she had a pretty good grasp of the system just from use)
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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Well only have played the HERO System once and at that time didn't have any of the books so gave one of the players the details on the character and she wrote it up... This was like 2 years ago... since then I have gotten some of the books but haven't had a chance to use them till now. Mostly we play Exalted; Vampire; and Cthulhu... But we run till the DM/ST/GM gets tired and then a new one takes over... The GM this time wants to run Dark Champions... sooooo... gotta hurry and figure out the system...and since we are starting like next week don't have a whole long time to study and figure things out...

    I bought the Hero Creator 2 but never used it till now so not real sure on how to do stuff with it...

    Hopefully, if we keep with it... perhaps I will get it figured out...but probably just in time to start some other game system... Heck I am kicking around running TORG when its my turn again... ROFL....

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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    You can purchase a PDF download of Sidekick for $7.00 and then you'd have the basic core of the game right now...

    I use the full system but I purchased 2 copies of sidekick for new players to familairize them with the system. Once you have the basics from sidekick the rest is a breeze. This also allows you to then later purchase 5ER to add the bells and whistles.

    Hope this helps

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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Quote Originally Posted by GOmezy3k
    Well only have played the HERO System once and at that time didn't have any of the books so gave one of the players the details on the character and she wrote it up... This was like 2 years ago... since then I have gotten some of the books but haven't had a chance to use them till now. Mostly we play Exalted; Vampire; and Cthulhu... But we run till the DM/ST/GM gets tired and then a new one takes over... The GM this time wants to run Dark Champions... sooooo... gotta hurry and figure out the system...and since we are starting like next week don't have a whole long time to study and figure things out...

    I bought the Hero Creator 2 but never used it till now so not real sure on how to do stuff with it...

    Hopefully, if we keep with it... perhaps I will get it figured out...but probably just in time to start some other game system... Heck I am kicking around running TORG when its my turn again... ROFL....
    ROFL! TORG! OMGWTF!!!11!1!!

    For a start, I'd suggest having some patience with yourself and with the system. You may want to read a few things on your own-- say, some of the rules, or the notes appended to the weapons tables-- to prepare. Then, I'd sit down with someone else in the group who is familiar with the basic rules of the system and either let them translate your words into numbers, or have them help you do it yourself.

    If no one in your group will help you do this, they're a bunch of juvenile assholes. Tell them so. Really let them have it. If they don't accept your opinion, threaten to convince them through physical violence, then grab the GM's hair with your right hand, drop to your left knee, and, using your body weight, bring his face crashing down upon your right knee. That should at least stun him, especially coupled with the fact that he likely wasn't expecting it.

    If the GM doesn't have hair, suggest to him that he grow some, as baldness is "out." Avoid him and the rest of the group while he grows hair, then proceed with the steps above.

    If he was expecting it... man, that guy's Benedict. You're on your own.
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    Re: Please explain in English about the guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejmeister
    Computer terms.

    GUI= Graphic User Interface (like Windoze)

    CLI= Command Line Interface (like DOS)
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