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    I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    ...I walked into my local game store to buy the 4th Edition Gurps Character & Campaign books, and ended up walking out with Hero 5th Edition Revised.

    A little background about my "gaming career" - I bought Champions back in the mid-eighties, and made up several characters (probably not entirely correct characters according to the rules), but never actually played the game. I bought the 4th Edition of Champions/Hero, but never actually played the game.

    When 5th Edition came out, I bought it, Fantasy Hero, Star Hero, and the Bestiary, but never played the game - or finished reading the rules. Then I took a hiatus from gaming for about a year or so.

    So here I am, back to gaming (weekly D&D 3.5, and a couple of online games), and thinking about trying to convert Warhammer 40K over to an RPG system....and I go into my game store with the full intention of picking up Gurps....when I see "THE PHONEBOOK"....I look through it, then through Ninja Hero, The Viper sourcebook, and Star Hero (which again, I own, but haven't read) - and it just seems like it would be FUN to convert 40K to Hero.

    I am a little scared at the prospect...the system seems like it will DO ANYTHING, but it also seems like there are so many options that it will be hard to know where to start a conversion.

    We'll see how it goes. I'm just fore-warning you folks that I might have a lot of questions over the next few weeks.
    Last edited by Melkor; Apr 1st, '05 at 01:41 PM.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor
    I am a little scared at the prospect...the system seems like it will DO ANYTHING, but it also seems like there are so many options that it will be hard to know where to start a conversion.

    We'll see how it goes. I'm just fore-warning you folks that I might have a lot of questions over the next few weeks.
    Welcome to the game and the Boards. There are lots of people here eager to help with conversions. Just don't expect many questions to have a "one true right answer" and you'll be fine.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor
    ...I walked into my local game store to buy the 4th Edition Gurps Character & Campaign books, and ended up walking out with Hero 5th Edition Revised.

    A little background about my "gaming career" - I bought Champions back in the mid-eighties, and made up several characters (probably not entirely correct characters according to the rules), but never actually played the game. I bought the 4th Edition of Champions/Hero, but never actually played the game.

    When 5th Edition came out, I bought it, Fantasy Hero, Star Hero, and the Bestiary, but never played the game - or finished reading the rules. Then I took a hiatus from gaming for about a year or so.

    So here I am, back to gaming (weekly D&D 3.5, and a couple of online games), and thinking about trying to convert Warhammer 40K over to an RPG system....and I go into my game store with the full intention of picking up Gurps....when I see "THE PHONEBOOK"....I look through it, then through Ninja Hero, The Viper sourcebook, and Star Hero (which again, I own, but haven't read) - and it just seems like it would be FUN to convert 40K to Hero.

    I am a little scared at the prospect...the system seems like it will DO ANYTHING, but it also seems like there are so many options that it will be hard to know where to start a conversion.

    We'll see how it goes. I'm just fore-warning you folks that I might have a lot of questions over the next few weeks.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    I to am finally back to the HERO System...and couldn't be happier!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor
    We'll see how it goes. I'm just fore-warning you folks that I might have a lot of questions over the next few weeks.
    If there is one thing the people on this board enjoy it is answering questions. We should just fore-warn you that it is not uncommon for Steve Long himself to offer answers too.

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    Hey, Melkor, welcome! It's nice to see you over in this neck of the cyberwoods.

    I know how you feel... when you really begin to see all the possibilities in HERO, the desire to start exercising your creativity is seductive.

    As my predecessors have said, this is a great place to ask HERO-related questions. Folks here are eager to show off how much we know.

    BTW regarding you Warhammer 40K conversion aspirations: If you follow the link in my signature below, and scroll down to the appropriate entry, I believe you'll find a few items which may help you with that. I also have it on good authority that more material will be added to that section in the near future, so stay tuned.

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    Re: Steve Long = the new answer-o-matic

    Quote Originally Posted by CourtFool
    If there is one thing the people on this board enjoy it is answering questions. We should just fore-warn you that it is not uncommon for Steve Long himself to offer answers too.
    If you have a rules question that's not in the rulebook or FAQ, you can always go to the "HERO Fifth Edition Rules Questions" forum and pose it to Steve Long directly. He usually answers within hours.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    Wow, I haven't had anyone warn other people about me since I was practicing law. I feel so special!
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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    Thanks for the welcome folks!

    Lord Liaden - Great link! I've pulled down info on the 40K Weapons Conversions (that will save me A LOT of time), the Tyranids, and the Space Marines.

    From looking at Star Hero, and the 5th PHONE...I mean RULEbook tonight, I've already found a tone of 'pre packaged' info (Packages - cultural, racial, and professional, and Equipment) that is going to make life easy for someone who is new to the system like I am.

    It also seems like there are SEVERAL ways to tackle the same issues using HERO, and a lot of it comes down to personal interpretation.

    Now on to a couple of questions (none specific to rules):

    1) Military Rank - How would this be handled (purchased) using HERO ?

    2) The 40K game I am working on is going to be a Play-by-Post message board game. Has anyone here used HERO for an email, or Play-by-Post game in the past ? If so, how did it work out for you ? I won't be using physical representation (a hex map) for combat, but I don't think that will be a huge problem, as I remember asking Mr. Long via email at one point about using HERO without miniatures and a hex map, and he explained that in all of his years of playing, he didn't use the maps often.

    Thanks again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melkor
    1) Military Rank - How would this be handled (purchased) using HERO ?
    Generally it is handled as a Perk, specifically a Fringe Benefit with a cost ranging between 1pt - 5pts. In a military extensive campaign you could use a wider scale, say 1pt - 10pts and maybe even include medals and special training as their own Fringe Benefits or in Reputation.

    Of course, Hero being what it is, you could also build it with PRE Skill Levels or additional PRE and Limited to military personel only.

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    Re: I just bought Hero 5th Edition Revised instead of GURPS 4th Edition.

    Quote Originally Posted by CourtFool
    Generally it is handled as a Perk, specifically a Fringe Benefit with a cost ranging between 1pt - 5pts. In a military extensive campaign you could use a wider scale, say 1pt - 10pts and maybe even include medals and special training as their own Fringe Benefits or in Reputation.

    Of course, Hero being what it is, you could also build it with PRE Skill Levels or additional PRE and Limited to military personel only.
    One thing you could consider, for a military-intensive campaign, is set a rank table as a perk, but prohibit characters from spoending points on it. They would only get increases in rank as an XP bonus specifically awarded by the GM. You could also have other perks and/or talents restricted to certain ranks or higher, so the players can buy these, but only after having achieved a certain rank.

    Alternatively, you can let them spend points as they choose - it depends what structure you want for your game.

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