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    "Understanding limitations and advantages"

    Hello all...
    I've been playing HERO for about a year, and I am finally getting around to designing a campaign, which of course means I have discovered how little I actually know and thought I knew...

    Anyway, supose in my campain world, all magic (powers) can affect desolid. Would I add that advantage to ALL magic? The converse option would be to add a "Does not work on Desolid" Disadvantage to those rare items where this was the case. This would make those rare items less expensive, and save some bookeeping on my part. I am not sure what the guiding principle on this is...

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    Just require any Desolid power to make Magical Attacks its weakness.
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    I hadn't thought of that, but I guess I was asking the more general question of if a advantage or limitation applies to all powers, or even some class of objects.
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    *most* objects of class X have advantage Y in the game world. Is it better to create typical objects X with the advantage Y (making them more expensive) or better (because of the easier book keeping) to give a limitation to those objects that don't have Y - "Object limitation- does not have Y" to make it cheaper? The first way requires more record keeping, and to be honest, print-out space. However, there might be a convention or other good reason to do it the first way.
    I hope that made sense.

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    Originally posted by cboscari
    I hadn't thought of that, but I guess I was asking the more general question of if a advantage or limitation applies to all powers, or even some class of objects.
    Example-

    *most* objects of class X have advantage Y in the game world. Is it better to create typical objects X with the advantage Y (making them more expensive) or better (because of the easier book keeping) to give a limitation to those objects that don't have Y - "Object limitation- does not have Y" to make it cheaper? The first way requires more record keeping, and to be honest, print-out space. However, there might be a convention or other good reason to do it the first way.
    I hope that made sense.

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    As you say, the first way requires more writing up and so on. It is, however, in accord with the rules as written, though you have to make sure the requirement is told to all the players.

    The second way is simpler, but requires a House Rule. The problem with House Rules is making sure everyone knows about them.

    Your call.

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    Remember that Desolidification by its text always has to have some defined way around it. Simply state as a GM that as a campaign rule, magic is the "way around" desolidification.

    At one time, you had to do this with sense-affecting powers for example.
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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    I really see this as a matter of preference. Go with less book keeping and inform the players of the house rule or be a completist and write it up for every instance.

    I tend to be a completist as it makes it easy for me to share with others who may not include my house rule. It is also there as a reminder when I find a character sheet for a campaign I ran three years ago.

    In a previous Fantasy campaign, I gave the magic users a free 'Magic Awareness' sense much like Mental Awareness for free. It was included in every magic user write up.

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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    Whoa, this is thread necromancy worthy of Takofanes!

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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Liaden View Post
    Whoa, this is thread necromancy worthy of Takofanes!
    And the OP only has 20 posts in 4 plus years. I think we might have lost him somewhere along the way.
    This space awaiting witty comment.

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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    There's been a rash of thread necro'ing lately, I've noticed.
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    Just move on peasant! Important matters are being resolved....
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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    Eh, if it's a feature of the Game World it doesn't need to be included in Power Writeups, it just is.

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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamond Spear View Post
    And the OP only has 20 posts in 4 plus years. I think we might have lost him somewhere along the way.
    On Dec. 31 of '03, to be precise.

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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    How can you know the date so precisely?
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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

    Quote Originally Posted by Manic Typist View Post
    How can you know the date so precisely?
    That's the Last Activity Date in the OPs user profile.
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    Re: "Understaning limitations and advantages"

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    (and who let the Llama spend XP on a "Raise Thread" Power?)
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