Extra Limb for Extra Action?

[Dr Divago]

Next question about a "freaky" cyberware: Live Wires
(conversion from CP2020's Chrome Book 3/4 to hero)

essenctially is a "semi independent" artificial tentacle-like structure, sometime called "cybersnake" that sprout out from an orifice (natural or artificially created) and has a "plug" in front;
When user send some "mental command" he sprout out from his housing and "plug" into a socket. Useful to connecting with a smart weapon, smart veichle and like.
Mechanical construction is:
Extra Limbs, Limited Manipulation (-¼), Reduced STR (STR 5 -¼), OIF (DEF 3; -½), Non Persistent (-¼),Cyberware (-½), Humanity Loss (1d6, -¾) plus Mind Link (only one ?smart? equipment at any time), No Range (-¼), Cyberware (-½), Linked (-¼)
Active Cost 15, Real Cost 6
{Humanity Loss is a side effect: gradually transform to cyberpsychotic; Cyberware is a combination of Restrainable and some other minimal limitation...}

Mind Link is normal power from "plug"

Now question is:
i say that connecting plug with smart veichle or weapon is an half phase (you must pick from your pocket the cable, connect to your plug in forehead or forearm, connect to socket in weapon/veichle...)
but live wires are designed to "fasten" this process: cybersnake sprout automatically and search for designed socket and plugging into it while your hand start veichle engine or draw weapon from holster.

So: i can state that using live wires give some "extra action"? i mean: state that live wires effect are to connect automatically at the weapon/veichle?
Or, in similar manner, state that connecting live wires is an half phase but can be combined with some other extra action like drawing a weapon from holster?
(i'm the campaign's GM, so just for speaking...)

[Roy_The_Ruthles]

extra actions are best represented as Penalty Skill Lvls to offset taking multiple actions at once (like sweeps)

[Black Lotus]

Yeah, a specific type of PSL tailored for your creation might be the solution. Half-phase actions have a lot of utility, and giving an extra half-phase action in the same Phase kind of goes "outside of time and space."

[Dr Divago]

Yeah, a specific type of PSL tailored for your creation might be the solution. Half-phase actions have a lot of utility, and giving an extra half-phase action in the same Phase kind of goes "outside of time and space."

Well but... i means...
i'll not give an "extra half action", only i transform "plugging" in a "zero phase" if combined with an half action...

For example:
i'll buy an attack with 6 charge, and 2 clips; changing a clip requires an half action
but i can buy the attack with 12 charge and as special effect saying "i've two clip but i'm very skilled to changing it in just few seconds". Special Effect are same, Game Effect are different

So this is the point: Live Wires is expensive, both of Point that Euros/Humanity Point; it's only justified 'cause permit to "plug" socket automatically...

[Black Lotus]

OK, I'm going to read your first post again really carefully, then post a better answer.

[Black Lotus]

Now question is:
i say that connecting plug with smart veichle or weapon is an half phase (you must pick from your pocket the cable, connect to your plug in forehead or forearm, connect to socket in weapon/veichle...)
but live wires are designed to "fasten" this process: cybersnake sprout automatically and search for designed socket and plugging into it while your hand start veichle engine or draw weapon from holster.

So: i can state that using live wires give some "extra action"? i mean: state that live wires effect are to connect automatically at the weapon/veichle?
Or, in similar manner, state that connecting live wires is an half phase but can be combined with some other extra action like drawing a weapon from holster?
(i'm the campaign's GM, so just for speaking...)

Ah. I don't think an Advantage or Adder exists for this sort of thing. I suggest creating an Advantage called "May 'Jack In' As a Zero Phase Action" and assigning it +1/4 ; now you just do it as a Zero Phase Action.

Oh, and English advice: "fasten" EDIT: is actually "quicken" or "speed up". Fasten means something else.

[Ura-Maru]

'Trigger: When hand placed near cyber-socket (+1/4)' on the interface plug.

Now, this will automatically take effect, weither the character wants it to or not. It's a 0 phase action that takes a half action to reset.

If you want the character to be able to choose weither or not it works, it would be at least a +1/2 advantage. (two activation conditions: wanting it to, and hand being near socket)

Normally I don't allow 'mental command' triggers, but I do in cases like this.

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"I'M INTERFACING!!!!!"

[Black Lotus]

'Trigger: When hand placed near cyber-socket (+1/4)' on the interface plug.

Now, this will automatically take effect, weither the character wants it to or not. It's a 0 phase action that takes a half action to reset.

If you want the character to be able to choose weither or not it works, it would be at least a +1/2 advantage. (two activation conditions: wanting it to, and hand being near socket)

Normally I don't allow 'mental command' triggers, but I do in cases like this.

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"I'M INTERFACING!!!!!"

I think that costs too much, though (because you DO want to have control over it, of course). I hadn't thought of doing it that way, however; good thinking.

[Ura-Maru]

Keep in mind, using Linked you don't have to buy the extra limbs or anything else, unless you can use the cables to do other things than jack in.

The basic chip socket seems to be based on the 10 point version of Mind link, so this'll cost less than 5 points . . .

Dr. D: You mentioned the Cybersnake. Just out of curiosity, how did you build it?

Did one of the later Chromebooks add the 'evicerate' attack that they cut in CP2020? Sarah must have been SO disapointed . . .

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"There are things in my head you don't want to see."

[Dr Divago]

Ah. I don't think an Advantage or Adder exists for this sort of thing. I suggest creating an Advantage called "May 'Jack In' As a Zero Phase Action" and assigning it +1/4 ; now you just do it as a Zero Phase Action.

mmm... thank!

Oh, and English advice: "fasten" EDIT: is actually "quicken" or "speed up". Fasten means something else.

>_<
you're right...

[Dr Divago]

Keep in mind, using Linked you don't have to buy the extra limbs or anything else, unless you can use the cables to do other things than jack in.

The basic chip socket seems to be based on the 10 point version of Mind link, so this'll cost less than 5 points...

Yes, Basic plug are build with Mind Link (10/4 point); this version will cost 15/6 point 'cause is a plug plus cybersnake body

Dr. D: You mentioned the Cybersnake. Just out of curiosity, how did you build it?

Extra Limbs, Limited Manipulation (-¼), Reduced STR (STR 8 -¼), OIF (DEF 3; -½), Non Persistent (-¼), Illegal Cyberware (-½), Humanity Loss 2d6 (-1¾) plus HKA ½d6 (1d6 w/STR), No END (+½); Illegal Cyberware (-½), Linked (-½), OIF (-½) 20/5 point cost
I've refused idea that cybersnake attack are independent, cause i liked "tentacle like" idea

To build up as an independent weapon i suggest to build up like a "summon cybersnake" and give statistics to it. But i like tentacle like extra arm

Did one of the later Chromebooks add the 'evicerate' attack that they cut in CP2020? Sarah must have been SO disapointed...

Nope. I known "eviscerate attack" from Hardwired but in CP2020 are'nt...
Even Tracy, my Cp2020's PC, are disappointed: Cybersnake saved her ass few time...

[Ura-Maru]

Well, the only person who actually got Evicerated was that transexual orbital executive, who was about half Sarah's size. She could have just twisted her head off, but that wouldn't have had had the wierd freuidian angle.

So maybe it's just a special effect.

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Did you know Walter Jon Willaims, who wrote the novel Hardwired, (the supplement, too) was one one of the original playtesters of CP2013?

Actually, did that ever come out in Italian?

[Black Lotus]

ROFL... forgive me, Ura-Maru, it's just that a native Italian knows how to spell "eviscerate" correctly, and you don't.

[Ura-Maru]

I _CAN_ spell it correctly. I just choose not to.
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This chatroom seems badly lagged . . .

[Roy_The_Ruthles]

Well but... i means...
i'll not give an "extra half action", only i transform "plugging" in a "zero phase" if combined with an half action...

For example:
i'll buy an attack with 6 charge, and 2 clips; changing a clip requires an half action
but i can buy the attack with 12 charge and as special effect saying "i've two clip but i'm very skilled to changing it in just few seconds". Special Effect are same, Game Effect are different

So this is the point: Live Wires is expensive, both of Point that Euros/Humanity Point; it's only justified 'cause permit to "plug" socket automatically...

Use quickdraw and break fall, skills as example, like "quick jack" etc. and have those skills only available to people with cyber snakes