Super Heroes and Killing

[American Valor]

The whole point of Batman and the Joker is that he would love to kill the Joker! He, as a young boy, watched his parents die right before his eyes! He wants every criminal, every thug that stole his life and the lives of many others to pay! But he's a hero. He won't become the type of monster that he hunts. The moment that he does, he'll never stop. He'll be just another costumed psychopath, except his shtick wouldn't be birds, jokes, hats, cats, or riddles...his would be 'justice'.

[zornwil]

Originally posted by ZootSoot
Hmm, is that a total CVK? I think that might work for a moderate or even a strong CVK, not sure it would for a total . . .

I believe it CAN be so long as it's played as a total, where the character: a) never ever kilsl himself (again, he knows he should not even if he believes there are criminals society should execute); b) stops anyone else from doing so (same thing, he knows they're not the judge and jury); and not necessarily but best-playeed if c) he does everything in his power (investigation, even breaking them out of jail) where he realizes someone in going to be wrongly executed by the state (i.e., they are innocent or the case was purely circumstantial and he knows corruption or prejudice guided the verdict). I say the "c" option because he is total CVK, not total "I follow the law". If he does all 3 things above, he really in my book is being "total" about it. I think he could even do the first 2 if the villains he faces routinely have high defenses and are killers, since he won't use lethal force even against them if he thinks it might penetrate too deeply, AND he stops his teammates from doing so. That's a hard character to play.