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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Liaden
    Most definitely. Lots of people like the option of creating legacy characters, or
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    as Hero Games's own Champions Universe.
    I agree. It is something that we have talked about.
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by RPMiller
    Your points are definitely valid LL, as always. I would point out however that SA is actually a city capable of being more than a four-color city. There is the Cathedral district that really has that Daredevil / Dark Champions tone to it after all. Also, the Dragon's Gate could be plopped into any existing city, or be a one shot adventure area in some other city than the campaign city. Just to toss a few other ideas out there.
    Absolutely agree. I for one think a variety of tones is a good thing to include, to cover a variety of gaming styles.

    I should probably have specified that I was addressing sales issues; if the sales of SA 1.5 and TDG have had an impact on plans to continue the line, I wanted to point out that those books had particular factors working against them that had nothing to do with their quality, and wouldn't necessarily reflect on the entire game line. For example, the tone of TDG and the power level of the characters detailed there were specific issues that I've seen several people raise regarding that book. More variety there might have made it more desirable.

    I do apologise if I caused any offense.
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Oh no offense at all. I don't take offense to constructive criticism.

    I just wanted to point out that the material is more adaptable than some may think, and your comments, while I understand your direction, may have led those not in the know to think that the material was restrictive some how.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPMiller
    We do post things to our own forums from time to time. Your idea is certainly a good one. I'll have to consider doing something like this. Thanks, , and have some rep for the suggestion.
    Any chance you would be willing to do a Digital Hero article, or two, filling us in on what's been happening in SA, over the last few years? I'm thinking it could be written as a newspaper article, or a story from a magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique
    Any chance you would be willing to do a Digital Hero article, or two, filling us in on what's been happening in SA, over the last few years? I'm thinking it could be written as a newspaper article, or a story from a magazine.
    [You crossposting fiend you. ]

    As I mentioned in the GRG forum. I will definitely consider this. As for how much info I can divulge that is another story entirely. I don't want to spill the beans about anything that might be in upcoming products, but Mark and I will talk and see what areas I can post about.
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique
    Any of you guys pick this up? if so, what did you think of it?
    I posted a really log review here: http://www.goldrushgames.com/forums/...wtopic=137&hl=

    It is heavily IMHO of course...
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by RPMiller
    As I mentioned in the GRG forum. I will definitely consider this. As for how much info I can divulge that is another story entirely. I don't want to spill the beans about anything that might be in upcoming products, but Mark and I will talk and see what areas I can post about.
    I'm not asking, nor would I want you to, give up things you plan on using down he road (as I said, I want to see you guys to make some loot off this deal). I'm thinking something along the lines of what you would post as a preview anyway. While I'm thinking about it, several companies have posted PDFs of cut-out/stand ups of characters. Any chance you could do that for EoSA? It would be a great give away. Anyone else here like to see something like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellS
    Cardboard minis are nice to have but they are really only beneficial if the original art is full-color [that's why DOJ has their art colored and then sells theirs]. If you need to have the character art colored then you are just spending money that could be better used elsewhere.
    Or there's the old fashined method of cloloring the pics yourself, after you've printed them out.
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellS
    I'd suggest that you forego Digital Hero and use your own website and resources for a number of reasons, the least not being that: 1, DOJ owns all rights to material published in DH and 2, DH articles don't reach M&M and Action System fans. If you're looking for a minimum of 800 units sold then you need to be able to target all 3 of those fan-groups. The best way to handle this is to put the material on your own website and then advertise on all the various RPG forums. That way you draw additional attention rather then just preaching to one side of the choir.
    Of course I didn't mention where I would be posting specifically...
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellS
    Cardboard minis are nice to have but they are really only beneficial if the original art is full-color [that's why DOJ has their art colored and then sells theirs]. If you need to have the character art colored then you are just spending money that could be better used elsewhere.
    I can do the coloring myself as can Mark. We are both proficient at PhotoShop, but yes you are correct about money better spent elsewhere.
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellS
    I'd suggest that you forego Digital Hero and use your own website and resources for a number of reasons, the least not being that: 1, DOJ owns all rights to material published in DH and 2, DH articles don't reach M&M and Action System fans. If you're looking for a minimum of 800 units sold then you need to be able to target all 3 of those fan-groups. The best way to handle this is to put the material on your own website and then advertise on all the various RPG forums. That way you draw additional attention rather then just preaching to one side of the choir.
    Trust me, there are currently SA threads up and running on several different boards at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Rush Games
    That gives me an idea for an interesting supplement:

    San Angelo Legends - a book of past heroes and villains (including deceased ones, ones from the Golden and Silver Ages, etc.). They would all be officially "out of circulation," yes, but they could easily be introduced into an existing campaign with any justifcation the GM wanted.

    Thoughts?
    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellS
    I'd purchase it in a heartbeat. I love the idea of legacy characters. Books like this serve as inspiration for creating legacy-based PCs [the son/grandson of the hero trying to live up to the ideals, or possibly of the villain try to make up for the relative's evil deeds]. I'd like to see such a book have stats for the characters in the prime as well as what they currently look like [only the still living ones, not the dead ones ] now that they're older and retired.
    Ditto!
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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Rush Games
    That gives me an idea for an interesting supplement:

    San Angelo Legends - a book of past heroes and villains (including deceased ones, ones from the Golden and Silver Ages, etc.). They would all be officially "out of circulation," yes, but they could easily be introduced into an existing campaign with any justifcation the GM wanted.

    Thoughts?
    I'd love to see this But then I'm a sucker for history/legacy books


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    Re: Enemies of San Angelo

    Okay gents, GRG is interested in what you want to see, and you mayhave some influence on what they decide to up into the updated/revised books. If you get the oppertunity, swing by their message boards www.goldrushgames.com/forums and let them know what you want to see.
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    I registered and signed in and yet was unable to post a new topic or reply to an existing one.

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