Resplendent Recluse
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Your favorite Archetype examples in super hero comics
Okay, the Archetypes in Champions, at least according to the 5th Ed books are:
Brick, Energy Projector, Gadgeteer, Martial Artist, Mentalist, Metamorph, Mystic, Patriot, Powered Armor, Speedster, Weapons Master
So, going with this, what examples in comic books of such would be your favorites? One or two max for each please.
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Given as Marvel, DC
Brick = Hulk or Thing, Mammoth (Everyone else is too diversified)
Energy Projector = Human Torch, Fire
Gadgeteer = Forge, Gizmo
Martial Artist = Shang-Chi, Bronze Tiger
Mentalist = Professor X, Saturn Girl
Metamorph = Sandman, Clayface
Mystic = Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate
Patriot = Captain America, Uncle Sam
Powered Armor = Iron Man, Steel
Speedster = Quicksilver, Flash
Weapons Master = Taskmaster or Bullseye, Deathstroke
In all cases, I have tried to use examples which are purest. In other words, Superman has too many other powers to be the archetypal Brick, Batman too many other abilities to be the archetypal Martial Artist.
Funny that neither made the big list. Other notable absences are Thor, Wonder Woman, Half the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and most of the X-Men.
Keith "That's my list" Curtis
Last edited by keithcurtis; Dec 16th, '05 at 11:31 PM.
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Stealing Keith's format (and apparently several of his answers):
Brick = Hulk, Thing
Energy Projector = Human Torch, Cyclops
Gadgeteer = Mr Fantastic, Forge
Mentalist = White Queen, Phoenix II (Rachel Summers...er Grey now...)
Metamorph = Mystique, Mr Fantastic (yes, I know I listed him twce. I like the FF damn it!)
Speedster = Nightcrawler, Flash
Patriot isn't an archtype in my mind. It's just a mental state... hmm, I think that came out wrong... bah, I'll let it stand...
Similarly, Mystic and Power armor are not arctypes so much as power Origins. Gadgeteer is in a similar boat really...
Patriot = Captain America
Mystic = Doctor Strange, Nico "Sister Grimm" Minoru
Powered Armor = Iron Man...um... I don't think I like any other power armor users... hell, I don't even like Iron Man that much....
Also, I consider Martial Artists and Weapon Master to be pretty much the same damn thing. Doesn't help that most weapon masters are excellent unarmed combatants and most martial artists use at least one signature weapon extremely well. However, I'll divide them up here for the sake of the poll:
Martial Artist= Daredevil, Captain America (yep, I like him a lot too)
Weapons Master = Hawkeye, Bullseye
Wonder Woman is one of my favorite characters, but I really can't fit her into just one or two categories. She's a Brick, Martial Artist, Weapon Master, Speedster, Mentalist. Clark's a Brick, Speedster, Energy Projector, Patriot. Bruce is mainly a Gadgeteer, Martial Artist with a little Weapon Master and Power Armor thrown in when the story demands it. Oh, and he's a Mentalist too, cause you NEED psychic powers to pull of some of the stuff he does
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Brick - Dumb Bunny, AwkwardmanOriginally Posted by Hermit
Okay, the Archetypes in Champions, at least according to the 5th Ed books are:
Brick, Energy Projector, Gadgeteer, Martial Artist, Mentalist, Metamorph, Mystic, Patriot, Powered Armor, Speedster, Weapons Master
So, going with this, what examples in comic books of such would be your favorites? One or two max for each please.
Energy Projector - Green Lambkin, Fire Stork
Gadgeteer - Inspector Gadget
Martial Artist - Merry Andrew
Mentalist - Saturn Goat
Metamorph - Plastic Man, Elongated Man, Beast Boy, Boy Beast
Mystic - Alley Cat Abra
Patriot - Yankee Poodle
Powered Armor - Bozo the Robot
Speedster - Fast Back
Weapons Master - White Feather
Last edited by OddHat; Dec 17th, '05 at 03:46 AM.
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HERO needs a 'paragon' archetype.
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Given as Marvel, DC
Brick = Thing, -
Energy Projector = Cyclops, Green Lantern (Hal or Kyle)
Gadgeteer = Hank Pym or Fixer, Brainiac 5
Martial Artist = Iron Fist or Shang-Chi, Karate Kid
Mentalist = Mentallo, Jericho
Metamorph = Sandman, Changeling/Beast Boy (ie Gar Logan)
Mystic = Doctor Strange, Doctor Fate
Patriot = Captain America, Uncle Sam
Powered Armor = Iron Man, -
Speedster = Speed Demon, Flash
Weapons Master = Hawkeye, Green Arrow
...with the revolver...
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Brick - The Thing. (Are there any others?
Energy Projector - Cyclops, Human Torch
Gadgeteer - Forge
Martial Artist - Spider-Man (I know it's stretching a bit, but I'm not a big MArts person)
Mentalist - Martian Manhunter
Metamorph - Tough, hard to narrow down...I'll say the Metal Men
Mystic - Dr. Strange
Patriot - Captain America
Powered Armor - Rocket Red (Apokolips armor)
Speedster - The Flash (Jay, Barry, or Wally)
Weapons Master - Green Arrow
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5th Ed Grognard
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Brick - Mon-el, Superman - I never got into the "bulky bricks" like Hulk or Thing
Energy Projector - Wildfire, Dazzler
Gadgeteer - Brainiac 5, Cyborg
Martial Artist - Karate Kid, Nightwing, Iron Fist
Mentalist- Saturn Girl, John Jonzz
Metamorph- Chameleon Boy, John jonzz, Mimic (Exiles)
Mystic- White Witch, Dr Fate, Zuriel
Patriot- Superman, Captain America
Powered Armor- Rocket Red, Iron Man
Speedster- Flash, Impusle
Weapons Master - Deathstroke. Can't think of any other characters in this catagory I really like (both the archers generally annoy me).
I'm sure everyone can tell what my favorite superteam is.
Last edited by Lord Mhoram; Dec 17th, '05 at 10:36 AM.
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That's what a GM's job is.
5th Ed Grognard
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That line up would make one heckuva comic. Nice choices.
You know how you play with a cat by dangling a peice of sting within his grasp, and then pull it away as he grabs for it? If the string isn't exciting and tempting the cat won't grab. But if you pull away early too many times and deny him too often, the cat gives up in frustration. The skill is in finding the sweet spot between those extremes where its fun for you and the cat.
That's what a GM's job is.
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I know you said "superhero comics", but I'm going to take a slightly different take.
Brick--Bean Bandit (not a super-level character, but the most impressive relative to his setting)
Energy Projector--Lina Inverse
Gadgeteer--Boy Detective Narutaki, Skuld
Martial Artist--Alita (also brick and speedster, really)
Mentalist--Tetsuo Shima, Legato Bluesummers
Metamorph--Shin (Space Pirate Mito)
Mystic--Lina Inverse, Belldandy
Powered Armor--the Knight Sabers
Weapons Master--Goury Gabriev, Vash the Stampede, Manji, Jubei
I can't seem to think of any patriot or speedster types from anime/manga
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The SuperPheemy Squad!
Brick: Superman, Captain Marvel
Energy Projector: Invisible Woman
Gadgeteer: Mr. Fantastic, Batman
Martial Artist: Captain America, Batman
Mentalist: J'onn J'onnz
Metamorph: J'onn J'onnz
Mystic: Dr. Doom
Powered Armor: Iron Man, Dr. Doom
Weapons Master: Captain America
Patriot: Captain America, Superman
Speedster: The Flash
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Wreck And Rule!
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Brick: The ThingOkay, the Archetypes in Champions, at least according to the 5th Ed books are:
Brick, Energy Projector, Gadgeteer, Martial Artist, Mentalist, Metamorph, Mystic, Patriot, Powered Armor, Speedster, Weapons Master
So, going with this, what examples in comic books of such would be your favorites? One or two max for each please.
Energy Projector: Cyclops, Green Lantern
Gadgeteer: Night Thrasher*, Batman
Martial Artist: Iron Fist
Mentalist: Jean Grey
Metamorph: Metamorpho (duh), Absorbing Man
Mystic: Drs. Strange and Fate
Patriot: Captain America and Superman
Powered Armor: Iron Man, Rocket Red
Speedster: Can it be more obvious than Flash and Quicksilver?
Weapons Master: Again, gotta cop out. Green Arrow and Hawkeye
*Night Thrasher's armor wasn't powered, per se; it had electronic systems, but it didn't enhance his strength or agility like Iron Man armor does. At least, the last time I saw it.
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Very Powerful Hero
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Brick: The Thing or Colossus
Energy Projector: Cyclops
Gadgeteer: Hank Pym
Martial Artist: Shang-Chi
Mentalist: Professor X
Metamorph: Absorbing Man
Mystic: Dr. Strange
Patriot: Captain America
Powered Armor: Iron Man
Speedster: Flash or Quicksilver
Weapons Master: Taskmaster or Dead Pool
People are confusing Hero's generic rules as being universal.
5th Ed Grognard
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Your favorite team is Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes.
We have a winner.
That will be interesting when the do that. I'm actually anticipating it.
Last edited by Lord Mhoram; Dec 17th, '05 at 01:50 PM.
You know how you play with a cat by dangling a peice of sting within his grasp, and then pull it away as he grabs for it? If the string isn't exciting and tempting the cat won't grab. But if you pull away early too many times and deny him too often, the cat gives up in frustration. The skill is in finding the sweet spot between those extremes where its fun for you and the cat.
That's what a GM's job is.
5th Ed Grognard
Senior Member
I know Alita (I like those books), I know I've heard the name Vash, but don't know what manga he belongs too. Every other name on your list was someone I had never heard of.
Sorry.
You know how you play with a cat by dangling a peice of sting within his grasp, and then pull it away as he grabs for it? If the string isn't exciting and tempting the cat won't grab. But if you pull away early too many times and deny him too often, the cat gives up in frustration. The skill is in finding the sweet spot between those extremes where its fun for you and the cat.
That's what a GM's job is.
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