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    Vampires AND disease?

    I got to thinking, what effect if any would HIV and diseases in blood have on a vampire when they drink blood of an infected person?
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    I'd go with none. Vampires consist primarily of dead tissue. There's nothing for viruses or bacteria to work with. Nothing for them to digest or be sustained.

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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curufea View Post
    I'd go with none. Vampires consist primarily of dead tissue. There's nothing for viruses or bacteria to work with. Nothing for them to digest or be sustained.
    Perhaps, being a rather mischievous game master; I'd say a mutation would occur. Something more sinister...

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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Well, whatever magic that keeps the vampire in an animated state may cause the diseases to become undead too...

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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    At worst I'd think they would become a carrier for the disease, but not suffer from its effects. This is really more a question of what you want for feel as opposed to logic since vampires are, in of themselves, fantasy. On the other hand, some might feel - or simply prefer - that vampires cannot be a carrier (even if they consumed the blood) by way of a simple necrotic hand-wave. How exactly the blood sustains them is also a matter of person interpretation.

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    1) Carrier.
    2) Not a carrier.

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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    I agree its really up to personal interpretation. I've always pretty much felt Vampires were pretty much immune to disease. Tech based Vampires might be different though. However,if they regenerate like crazy I always figured their body defenses for infection and disease worked at the same level though. Immortality and immunity to sickness always seemed to go together to me anyway. As to a carrier supernaturals maybe, certainly legendary precedent, tech vampires if immune probably no IMO.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Quote Originally Posted by Curufea View Post
    Well, whatever magic that keeps the vampire in an animated state may cause the diseases to become undead too...
    Oh, an undead version of AIDS... that could be such a devious Champions plot twist!
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    I imagine vampires as having a body in much the state a body has after death, but before decomposition. None of the organs or tissue are alive or functioning, but instead animated by magic. As such, diseases have the same effect they'd have on any inanimate structure. A blood disease would stay alive as long as the blood drank by the vampire stays alive how long that is is up to you. In the vampire rpg, vamps use blood to power their supernatural abilities, at which point, it "goes away," and I've carried that idea into other vampire myths, myself. Drinking the infected blood of a vampire might infect you if drinking the blood of an infected human would. Otherwise, the vamp isn't "infected" itself, so it normally can't be transmitted by sneezing, coughing, etc.

    And that would be my 2 AP.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    One episode of the Forever Knight television show from some years back (short premise, vampire trying to "reform" for his past misdeeds) featured an experimental genetically-engineered virus designed to attack HIV, that got loose and proved to be the only disease that affected vampires. Lethally. It was threatening to spread and wipe them out, when one of them accidentally discovered the cure: drink HIV-infected blood.

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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    I agree that it depends on the vampire. Lumley's vampires were scared of Leprosy, a disease over vampires don't worry about.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Options:

    1) Vampires are dead, and the disease organisms die.
    2) Vampires' ability to heal includes destroying the microbes to die.
    3) Vampires' supernatural state changes the microbes, causing the next plague.
    4) It becomes a vampire-specific disease.
    5) The vampire is a carrier without suffering from the disease.
    6) The vampire suffers from the disease.
    7) Etc.

    Much of it simply comes down to the nature of vampirism in the setting.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    In my Via setting, vampirism is a curse, afflicting only two people, and neither of them are actually dead. A side effect of the curse is an immunity to diseases. So, if they got loose in the real world and drank blood from an HIV-infected host, nothing would happen.

    If I'd built them differently, it might wind up differently, but I've heard a lot of vampire mythos that have vampires immune to disease. I think the idea is that they're merely ingesting the blood, not everything else with it.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliceTheOwl View Post
    In my Via setting, vampirism is a curse, afflicting only two people, and neither of them are actually dead. A side effect of the curse is an immunity to diseases. So, if they got loose in the real world and drank blood from an HIV-infected host, nothing would happen.

    If I'd built them differently, it might wind up differently, but I've heard a lot of vampire mythos that have vampires immune to disease. I think the idea is that they're merely ingesting the blood, not everything else with it.
    Maybe, but it's kinda hard to drink blood without getting all the little stuff that's in the blood.


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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    It is, but if it's not absorbed into the body, it would be discarded as waste. I suppose it implies a more advanced sorting mechanism for what's waste or what isn't, but these writers also imply vampirism is an advanced evolutionary step.
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    Re: Vampires AND disease?

    Quote Originally Posted by csyphrett View Post
    I agree that it depends on the vampire. Lumley's vampires were scared of Leprosy, a disease over vampires don't worry about.
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    Lumley's vampires weren't undead though, but parasitic mutants.

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