The precise position of HitLoc 13

[Fitz]

Where is the elusive HitLoc 13? And is it actually worth worrying about?

[ghost-angel]

I always assumed it was the area from the genitals up to the belt line. (stunningly, women have genitals too, just not hanging as low.)

I chose option 3 in the poll.

[Killer Shrike]

Where is the elusive HitLoc 13? And is it actually worth worrying about?

It's every where you want to be, and some places you don't as well.

[Bismark]

I always go with 'belt line to the "hurty bits"' as well. Lots of lovely blood vessels to hit there, plus the reproductive organs, plus (in pre-modern societies, a real nasty place to get hit as it was a 'slow killer') the caecum []


My doctor friends, having seen the hit location diagram on one of my character sheets, refer to Location 13 as 'the lower giblets' - as good a label as any.

[Edsel]

Our group always counted it as the assorted vital areas of the body from the neck down. In fact our house rules includes a sub-table for use when you absolutely have to know where the damage was inflicted. You roll 1d6 on the following:

1 = Heart, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x2 BODY
2-3 = Lung, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
4 = Kidney, x5 STUNx, x2 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
5 = Liver, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
6 = Genitals, x5 STUNx, x2 N STUN, x2 BODY

So I voted for option #2 since I have actually put some thought into this.

[AmadanNaBriona]

Our group always counted it as the assorted vital areas of the body from the neck down. In fact our house rules includes a sub-table for use when you absolutely have to know where the damage was inflicted. You roll 1d6 on the following:

1 = Heart, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x2 BODY
2-3 = Lung, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
4 = Kidney, x5 STUNx, x2 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
5 = Liver, x4 STUNx, x1.5 N STUN, x1.5 BODY
6 = Genitals, x5 STUNx, x2 N STUN, x2 BODY

So I voted for option #2 since I have actually put some thought into this.

Nice!
The Body mod for the groin seems kinda extreme to me... I'd probably do something like a special rule for the location so its a x1 Body (To be honest, IMO it's not usually any more threatening than a non vital chest wound), but that Body taken is doubled to determine Impairing or Disabling effects. They aren't called the hurty bit for nothin'... reproductive stuff is pretty easy to take out of function.

[Nolgroth]

Nice!
The Body mod for the groin seems kinda extreme to me... I'd probably do something like a special rule for the location so its a x1 Body (To be honest, IMO it's not usually any more threatening than a non vital chest wound), but that Body taken is doubled to determine Impairing or Disabling effects. They aren't called the hurty bit for nothin'... reproductive stuff is pretty easy to take out of function.

Not to mention one heck of a STUN multiplier.

[AmadanNaBriona]

Not to mention one heck of a STUN multiplier.

You'll note I didn't disagree with the x5 Stun & X2 NStun Mods....

[Kristopher]

It's actually pretty funny that someone thought it was a good idea to post a poll thread with the apparent direct intent of insulting everyone talking about a subject, and that the discussion of that subject immediately took over the thread as if nothing ever happened.

[L. Marcus]

I laughed.

[Hugh Neilson]

With no offense intended, I find this pretty funny:

You, and everyone else who wants to make snide "Why are you talking about this?" comments about the Location 13 subthread, can just not read the posts about it, or not read the thread, and keep your comments to yourselves.

So someone starts a second thread for the snide comments and:

It's actually pretty funny that someone thought it was a good idea to post a poll thread with the apparent direct intent of insulting everyone talking about a subject, and that the discussion of that subject immediately took over the thread as if nothing ever happened.

What happened to "If you don't like the thread topic, don't read it"?

[Hugh Neilson]

hmmm...when I was a very young kid, we weren't that politically senisitive, so we would play "war". We'd fall back , and moan our wounds. "I got shot in the arm"; "I got shot in the leg". One kid always got shot "in the worst possible place".

Maybe that's the vitals. At location 13 not because it's physically between 12 and 14, but because 13 is the most unlucky of numbers, so it strikes in the "worst possible place"

[Savinien]

I think it is an interesting conversation, but going into too many details is SIM to me. Too SIM.

I can see the various sides, though. When cover or piecemeal armor are involved, it steps out of the bounds of the system to say 13 can be anywhere. That's why the neat little second table above is a good idea.

[Edsel]

I cooked up the detailed hit locations table since occasionally my game features the odd super-natural creature. Sometimes it's important to hit the heart of such critters and if a character isn't aiming specifically for that location and rolls a 13 I needed to know just what was hit. A wooden stake in Dracula's Kidney or Groin is just going to piss him off.

I kept the x2 BODY for the Groin hit since that is what everyone seemed to assume a Vitals hit was a groin shot and that was what a vitals hit did. I probably ought to drop it to 1.5x BODY or 1x BODY but there are a lot of major arteries in that area. Perhaps a increased bleeding dice (for those that use the rule) would be more appropriate.

[Lucius]

Where is the elusive HitLoc 13? And is it actually worth worrying about?

1. It's exactly where it says it is: The Vitals.

See

http://dict.die.net/vitals/

or

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/vitals

2. Is it worth worrying about? Depends on who you are and what your circumstances are. If there is misunderstanding in your gaming group, for example, it is worth worrying about because that is a conflict that needs to be resolved.

Lucius Alexander

Riding through on a palindromedary