I'm looking for good links with pictures, names, and facts regarding clothing from various times and places in history. Any suggestions?
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I'm looking for good links with pictures, names, and facts regarding clothing from various times and places in history. Any suggestions?
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This site seems to have a lot of references and pics that'll probably help you in your search.
Was there something in particular you were looking for?
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Medieval, and pre-Roman Britain and Gaul.Originally Posted by AliceTheOwl
I keep finding sites that think I want to see rotten cloth, ruined reliefs, and faded illumination, and agonizingly long discussions about how they think they know how a particular village wore their cloak pins in 1029.
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My old re-enactment group's website has some nice links-
http://www.aaf.org.au/linksresources/
Other re-enactment sites-
http://members.iinet.com.au/~bill/handbook/fabrics.html
http://members.iinet.com.au/~bill/handbook/basic2.html
http://www.geocities.com/hansensmtn/...al_costume.htm
Big passle o' links-
http://www.currentmiddleages.org/tents/costuming.htm
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The History of Costume
http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/TEXT_INDEX.HTML
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One of the things I'm looking for is if there's a European hat that's similar to this style of hat:
http://www.rebirth.co.za/african_hats.htm
I've seen them in a few movies and TV series, but I can't find images or names online.
One of the problems with the sites I keep finding is that they either have no images, or have art from the period they're dicussing, which is very hard to discern anything in.
"When all the small pleasures and freedoms of life become the property of the state, you are fighting to exist." -- Nafisi
"I think your approach is entirely valid and perhaps there's some merit, but I tend toward's Kristopher's way of thinking." -- Zornwil
"It is one thing to suspend your disbelief.
It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead."
"Never wrestle with a pig. You end up dirty and the pig likes it."
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If you're looking for a hat like that in Iron Age Gaul or Britain, I doubt you're going to find it. The iconography of the early Iron Age includes a kind of low conical hat apparently worn by male warriors/elites (possibly made of bark, at least in the Hochdorf burial), and there are several later depictions of "double-comma" headdresses in religious art, but I know of nothing like an African or Middle Eastern fez or kofia from Iron Age Europe.
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Maybe it's a costuming error.
Might be from a later period, also.
The image I have in my head is of a hat made plain cloth, instead of the patterned cloth on the African hats, with an embroidered or decorated section about an inch tall around the bottom.
"When all the small pleasures and freedoms of life become the property of the state, you are fighting to exist." -- Nafisi
"I think your approach is entirely valid and perhaps there's some merit, but I tend toward's Kristopher's way of thinking." -- Zornwil
"It is one thing to suspend your disbelief.
It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead."
"Never wrestle with a pig. You end up dirty and the pig likes it."
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Urgh - there are several hats which could fit your mental image, given the pictures off the link.
Working backwards....
In Late medieval/Renaissance italy, these little babieswere all over. They are usually just called "Caps" but are sometimes referred to as "Toques" "truncated toques" (because toques, while all cylindrical, could also be tall - the traditional cook's hat is a modified toque) or "Italian Toques". Or for that matter, "slashed caps" (because some of them had a slash up one side tied together with a lace, allowing you to fit it for size, or "red caps" (nothing to do with scottish goblins) because so many of them shown in paintings are red - making them look like so many fezzes. That's probably because of the ecclesiastical connection of the paintings, though, rather than real fashion. Modern toques are made of floppy material, but in medieval times they were often made of felt, so were stiff-sided.
In 1400's Flanders, men wore a little cylindrical hat, which sometimes had an embroidered rim, called a "Pill hat" which also makes its way into some English paintings - and presumably therefore onto some English heads (not surprisingly, given the trade of the day)
Earlier in England and north-western France (mid-1200's) men wore a similar thing, but I can't help you with a name: as far as I know, they are just called "hattes"
cheers, Mark
cheers, Mark
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The second, smaller picture is just about dead on. I now have something to work with.
Thank you.
Actually, thank you to everyone who has posted so far, in case I didn't say it earlier.
"When all the small pleasures and freedoms of life become the property of the state, you are fighting to exist." -- Nafisi
"I think your approach is entirely valid and perhaps there's some merit, but I tend toward's Kristopher's way of thinking." -- Zornwil
"It is one thing to suspend your disbelief.
It is another thing entirely to hang it by the neck until dead."
"Never wrestle with a pig. You end up dirty and the pig likes it."
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Now I have a question, where can I find good pictures of japanese and chinese clothes. With the chinese, both han style and the styles after they got invaded and han styles were outlawed (can't for the life of me remember what's it called... read it ONCE... also not 100% sure Han is correct...). Preferably these would be pictures of actual people and such, not paitings/drawings... but really good art would do!
Thanks!
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