Why We're Creating The 6th Edition -- Please Read Before Posting

[archermoo]

Failing that, you might be able to go the PDF route, and print them out as desired. More expensive in the long run, but customized.

Yup, I've though about that. I know, shock-surprise. The downside is that I'm not really fond of any of the methods I could use to bind them if I went that route.

[SAVeira]

Yup, I've though about that. I know, shock-surprise. The downside is that I'm not really fond of any of the methods I could use to bind them if I went that route.

If you live anywhere near an university, you most likely came find professional book binders who normal bind thesis and so. They normally do fine work.

[archermoo]

If you live anywhere near an university, you most likely came find professional book binders who normal bind thesis and so. They normally do fine work.

Hadn't thought of that. I work at UCSF.

[Kirby]

This is still conceptually true, even if it won't still be literally true. The core rules of the HERO System are all you need to run in any game or genre. It's just that the core rules will now happen to be presented in two volumes instead of one.

In other words, you'll need two books for the core rules. The "conceptually true" is about a feasible as a concept car at an auto show. They show it to you, but they'll never make it.

[Kirby]

And, in a way, if you bought Fred, thine 5ER, that was sort of startign over in a way--repurchased the main rules, and incorperated changes. People cheerfully bought the Champiosn universe update.

I have FREd, but not 5ER; I saw no reason to buy essentially the same book right after I purchased it. The same with HD v3. I saw no real reason to purchase it less than a year after I purchased HDv2. Thankfully I didn't because now there'd most likely be a new version coming out that I'd have to purchase in a year.

I'm still on the "wait and see" fence for 6E, but I'm also deciding whether this new edition will be worth purchasing or simply the point where I stop playing. My wife and I have already received our tax rebate check from the IRS and paid off our two remaining loans as well as one credit card. I'll be looking for a part time job soon, so in theory there will be some actual "play" money coming in that we haven't had in a while; however, I could use that money to pursue another interest.

In the same vein, I'm already playing an MMORPG, but I'm looking forward to Champions Online. I want to be a part of the beta testing, but in the end I only plan on being in ONE MMO game, so I might leave my other one if Champions Online does well.

[Kirby]

On one hand I like the idea of 1 book being all I ever need.
On the other I think it's a good idea to separate Creation from Play.

IF they can accomplish separating Creation from Play, then it will be well done. I just hope that the two book together don't cost 50%+ or more of what FREd did (at $40).

[ghost-angel]

I have FREd, but not 5ER; I saw no reason to buy essentially the same book right after I purchased it. The same with HD v3. I saw no real reason to purchase it less than a year after I purchased HDv2. Thankfully I didn't because now there'd most likely be a new version coming out that I'd have to purchase in a year.

No there won't. Dan went specifically to a "contract" mode to avoid making a new version.

He's stated many many times that unless he significantly redoes the codebase he's just going to update it. Even into Hero6E.

[ghost-angel]

IF they can accomplish separating Creation from Play, then it will be well done. I just hope that the two book together don't cost 50%+ or more of what FREd did (at $40).

Oh that's easy, look at Character Creation Handbook - that's pretty much Creation right there. Just add Equipment (Chapter 3 in 5ER) and you're done.

Play is Chapter 2 (Combat & Adventuring) and Chapter 4-8. And that's Play.

The system is already pretty neatly divided up conceptually. Just not physically.

[archermoo]

I have FREd, but not 5ER; I saw no reason to buy essentially the same book right after I purchased it. The same with HD v3. I saw no real reason to purchase it less than a year after I purchased HDv2. Thankfully I didn't because now there'd most likely be a new version coming out that I'd have to purchase in a year.

HD is on a 2 year maint contract. When 6e comes out, HD will be upgraded for the new rules. No need to pay more until the contract expires.

[TSandman]

The only negative I've seen so far in the 6e announcements is that at least the core books are almost certainly going to be printed in colour. I hate the feel of the glossy papers that generally have to be used for colour books. I'm hoping they manage to go with paper that doesn't feel like crap to me.

If they can do it with nice paper, it'll be a GREAT boost to attract newbie...

Good Looking books attracts attention (just take a look at CthulhuTech!) and what attracts attention has more chances of being sold.

B&W books are OK if done RIGHT (anyone remember the KULT rpg book??? damned I had headach just trying to read 10 pages!). Color books can be pain in the XYZ too (Ref: Mage: The Awakening... GOLD headlines on WHITE background... how Shiny, but how dumb!)

[archermoo]

IF they can accomplish separating Creation from Play, then it will be well done. (at $40).

Ick. I certainly hope they don't separate creation and play. Points are points. They are just a measurement of the usefulness of the ability. They aren't money that gets spent and is then gone.

That's actually one of the things I REALLY hated about GURPS.

[GamePhil]

Ick. I certainly hope they don't separate creation and play. Points are points. They are just a measurement of the usefulness of the ability. They aren't money that gets spent and is then gone.

That's actually one of the things I REALLY hated about GURPS.

Huh? I thought he was just talking about the fact that it will be in two books.

[Kirby]

Huh? I thought he [was] just talking about the fact that it will be in two books.

I was.

[Kirby]

No there won't. Dan went specifically to a "contract" mode to avoid making a new version.

Well, that would be nice for those that purchased HDv3. IIRC (and I may be wrong) he did a two year contract which would be expiring in 2009. (Though, it may be a two year contract with the purchaser.)

[rjcurrie]

Well, that would be nice for those that purchased HDv3. IIRC (and I may be wrong) he did a two year contract which would be expiring in 2009. (Though, it may be a two year contract with the purchaser.)

The HD contract is 2 years from date of purchase. Dan has already stated that the 6E update will be covered under the normal contract.