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    Quote Originally Posted by concord View Post
    This is the Erne (a type of sea eagle), it is the vehicle that the Wardens use to get from Alcatraz island to the mainland and the vehicle picture that was its inspiration.



    When designing/mapping a vehicle, I usually only work on half of it. Then when that half is completed I mirror it for the opposite half.
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    The Justice Bunch's* Star Cruiser:


    * A little help please? I'm running out of cool supergroup names (assuming I haven't already) and I'll draw you a super-transport so your (approximate) specifications if I use your suggested name.
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    Super-Stratocruiser
    During the 'forties, the Patriot Squad was given a crashed Boeing Stratocruiser and given free reign to restore and modify it to their purposes. They essentially tore it apart and remanufactured it, ending up with a much larger plane (the Stratocruiser's fuselage is 10' in diameter while the Super-Stratocruiser's diameter is 13' 8") with more powerful engines that could run on diesel oil or kerosene (though at a slight altitude and speed penalty when using kerosene).

    Post-war, the Patriot Squad was provided with a refurbished Boeing 307 Stratocruiser. Boeing dismantled, then rebuilt the Super-Stratocruiser to examine and duplicate every part for production as the Boeing 377 Super-Stratocruiser. After production began on the Super-Stratocruiser, Boeing returned the old plane to the Patriot Squad, and began paying royalties on the design. Boeing continued to provide the Patriot Squad with aircraft through 1968, when most of them retired. The Super-Stratocruiser remained in production for many years, though once Boeing introduced its 707 Jetliner, the Super-Stratocruiser was largely utilized as a cargo plane. The fact that it could run on Jet Fuel was something of an advantage, as it was considerably less expensive per pound than the Avgas other piston aircraft used.
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    Beautiful thread SSgt.

    A lot of your vehicles remind me of this website: http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/

    I can always find inspiration here. I especially like concept vehicles section.

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    I like the V-22 Osprey for a modern day feel to Champions. I forgot to mention the reason I liked this vehicle was that is plenty of room to carry personnel & equipment. I.E. containment set-ups for super villains that you don't want to hand over to diabolical scientists in the employ of the government.
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    The V-22 is a nice aircraft on paper but its accident rate is terrible, along with it being hard to pilot, and then theres the cost overruns... no thanks, if a group of my players wanted one for transport... but I am going to give it real stats and faults. its just not a great aircraft
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    It's not as bad as you think.

    Sure, the experemental and developmental models had some pretty unplesant accidents, and some handling issues. But that is only to be expected when developing a whole new type of aircraft. How many early aircraft crashed in the first 20 years of powered flight? Thousands? How many helicopters crashed in the 30's as they were being developed. Hundreds, certainly. Loosing a dozen test aircraft (most due to mechanical failure in these same experemental models) ain't that bad.

    Look at it this way: There were 2 XB-70's built. One crashed. That was in a 2-year flight-test program (as I recall). The V-22's have been in development for nearly 20 years while they iron out kinks in the systems. The accident rate over that entire period isn't all that bad.

    It's become a matter of bad press more than anything else. Like when those F-117's crashed in the late 80's just after the Nighthawks went public. Suddenly "the whole program was riddled with flaws and bound to fail because the basic airframe was aerodynamically unsound." At least, that's what the press said at the time.

    I not the F-117 still serves today, and will only be phased out of service as the USAF version of the Joint Strike Fighter comes online.

    The current V-22 is a viable military aircraft, which means it meets a reasonable level of ruggedness, reliability, and simplicity.

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    Boeing 507 (Derived from the Boeing 377 shown above)
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    The Super-Bus

    The Superguys' transport isn't much to look at until you see what it can do. Cobbled together from a salvaged Greyhound Scenicruiser and a crashed UFO, the Superbus is cabable of operations on land, in the sea (to depths of up to 12,000 feet or more), in the air (supersonic VTOL) and in space (hyperdrive).

    The Superbus serves as a mobile base for the Superguys, as well as providing rapid transportation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    It's not as bad as you think.

    Sure, the experemental and developmental models had some pretty unplesant accidents, and some handling issues. But that is only to be expected when developing a whole new type of aircraft. How many early aircraft crashed in the first 20 years of powered flight? Thousands? How many helicopters crashed in the 30's as they were being developed. Hundreds, certainly. Loosing a dozen test aircraft (most due to mechanical failure in these same experemental models) ain't that bad.

    Look at it this way: There were 2 XB-70's built. One crashed. That was in a 2-year flight-test program (as I recall). The V-22's have been in development for nearly 20 years while they iron out kinks in the systems. The accident rate over that entire period isn't all that bad.

    It's become a matter of bad press more than anything else. Like when those F-117's crashed in the late 80's just after the Nighthawks went public. Suddenly "the whole program was riddled with flaws and bound to fail because the basic airframe was aerodynamically unsound." At least, that's what the press said at the time.

    I not the F-117 still serves today, and will only be phased out of service as the USAF version of the Joint Strike Fighter comes online.

    The current V-22 is a viable military aircraft, which means it meets a reasonable level of ruggedness, reliability, and simplicity.
    I agree with everything you said, except the bit about the Nighthawk still being in service.

    It was retired earlier this year. You can see some video here:

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    My bad; I appear to be behind on my military news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcan View Post
    My bad; I appear to be behind on my military news.
    No worries, it was ahead of schedule. In fact, it was sort of abrupt. The rumor mill was that they did it to close a budget shortfall, and that the Raptor, even with it's much lighter bombload of mini-bombs, was such a quantum leap forward in stealth, it made the 117 obsolete. I think that last bit might be a bit of wishful thinking until the JSF comes online.
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    I agree that it was premature, there are only 2 Raptors in service right now (that I know of). Of course, in exercises they routinely wax 8 Eagles Air-to-air...

    Not sure how far they go to repalcing the capacity lost with the Nighthawks. Sure, you could use Spirits, but at a half-billion dollars apiece I don't see them being risked for 'routine' stuff very often.

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    good gosh man, this design would suck up every screw and pebble off the tarmac !
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