Champions Villains Volume Three: Solo Villains when will it be on the shelf?

[TotalerKrieg]

I have been waiting to finish my collection of villains books for awhile now, the solo villains PDF is out so where is the dead tree version, from what i understand it was suppose to be out by now.

[BoloOfEarth]

Perhaps they included some ninjas in the book, and they're hiding too well...

[Steve Long]

As soon as we have specific information on a release date we'll let you know, both through the weekly Friday news updates and posts on the Company Questions board.

[ashton2]

As soon as we have specific information on a release date we'll let you know, both through the weekly Friday news updates and posts on the Company Questions board.

Yeah but one more week of "Darrin is working on the printing logjam" and I am going to ask Discovery channel to send their American Loggers to help him, expensed to Mr. Long of course.


Tommy

[BoloOfEarth]

(sits back and remembers how infrequent releases were in the bad-old-days before DOJ)

I think I can be patient a few more weeks.

[Steve]

With more books coming through, the logjam is getting bigger. That is a concern to those of us wondering what is going on with the printer.

I have money I want to give to Hero, but I refuse to until the pdf bundles are put into the store.

[ashton2]

(sits back and remembers how infrequent releases were in the bad-old-days before DOJ)

I think I can be patient a few more weeks.

1) Its was a joke.
2) I am glad you are graced with such a princely attribute. I unfortunately do not have patience, helps with my job as Program Manager for tech firm, sucks with my personal life.
3) I was playing champions from the BBB on, was a huge fan of the Pre-DOJ Steve Long Dark Champions, I own almost champions product printed in my collection so yes, I remember those days too, and also the time before that in the BBB/pre-BBB era where output was pretty good too. I use the Three Galaxies (Palladium) for space games, L5r (AEG) is a huge portion of my budget, I know near zero output and missed schedules......
4) I also dont use Pulp Hero, Fantasy Hero, or Star Hero. I switched to M&M two years ago for the system and Freedom setting ( dont like M City at all, but do use Vibora Bay) but use as my villains CCC/Champions universe villains, old friends I know well, M&M for crunch/Champions for Fluff. So I only care about the champions villains books.
5) I love the Champions Villains, but after 4+ revisions of Champions (including CtNM, some cool ideas there), I pretty much have 3-4 books with the same villains that are in these books, but A) I love the artwork, B) I like some of the changes, and C) again fan/supporter of Steve/DOJ. Otherwise, I wouldnt be paying a good chunk of change for what I really already have. I bought the core books and dont use them just because I hope that helps keep champions alive.

So sorry my joke offended, hadn't posted in a while, probably wont again. Take care.
T

[BoloOfEarth]

So sorry my joke offended, hadn't posted in a while, probably wont again. Take care.
T

Your joke didn't offend -- I did in fact chuckle at it.

And I'm truly sorry my comment apparently offended you. It really wasn't meant to. Seriously. (And I'm rarely serious, though I don't expect you to know that.) I should have put a smiley on my prior post to let you know it was a bit tongue in cheek.

[Goradin]

I am really at a loss how this book hasn't made it to the printers. I bought the first two and have been waiting on this one for a year. But other stuff moves through. Do peeps not want these books, I know Darren sometimes says demands are low. I bought a PDF of all the villian books.

Now I see, Champions Beyond is next. I want this one so that is cool with me. But I am extremely disatisfied as a loyal consumer about this sabotaging of the Champions line which was the origin of the HERO System. Why is this book continually being pushed to the side?

Work with us, we love you guys, all we want is an honest answer and our book.

[Darren Watts]

Hero only has the resources to print so many books at a time, and the unfortunate delay caused several to crash into each other on the schedule. We decided that getting Star Hero, the big core release, out at Gencon was top priority, and that meant some other titles had to be shifted around on the calendar and in a couple of cases bumped to the other side of Gencon. With Star shipped and Beyond now on the road, the next two titles we're working on getting out are Villains 3 and the second Advanced Players Guide. I don't have dates for them yet, but we're talking weeks, probably not months. dw

[Goradin]

Thanks Darren, I really appreciate the answer. I, for one, don't know jack about the roleplaying business. I know Steve and you are professionals in this field. You do what is best for the company I want you guys around for a long time!

[Spidey88]

I appreciate the answer too (as I'm sure all of us do). Naturally, the real world doesn't always go the way we want it to - but these little updates from you guys really makes a big difference.

You guys are class acts!

[PamelaIsley]

I wonder, since its been two weeks, if there is any further update on this?

[Tech]

I think everyone needs to be patient in this matter. I think we are privileged that Steve or Darren even tell us what's going on; very many other companies wouldn't. Okay, yes, many want the books and that's encouraging to them (I hope) but waiting two weeks and then saying "Are we there yet?" isn't going to help.

[PamelaIsley]

Although I appreciate it when Steve Long or Darren Watts post on the forum, answer questions, and interact with fans and readers, I hardly think we are "privileged" if a company provides updates on its product release schedule, since their goal, presumably, is to sell things to people who want to buy them. That's a very odd choice of words. I don't consider myself privileged, for example, when a car company tells when the new 2012 models are available, rather than just quietly releasing them with no fanfare (like that would ever happen).

Considering that the status of other books is constantly updated in the weekly summary, and this book is always conspicuously absent, I also don't feel out of line waiting two weeks (when our only update in months said it is a matter of weeks) to simply ask for an update. After all, they can completely ignore me and there is no other way to get this information (I've asked some sellers and they have no info on it).