All ghosts evil?

[Lucius]

Lucius have you read Deut 18:10-12?

Not in the original Hebrew.

Lucius Alexander

(is a palindromedary a familiar?)

[Revenant]

Well, in going with the conversation, I'm a Christian and I don't think all ghosts are evil. I know for a fact that my Grandmother's house was watched over every night by my Grandfather's ghost. I've never felt so safe anywhere else, and this was in a very crime ridden area. There was just a tangible feeling of my Grandfather watching over us, plus the footsteps every night from the front door into the hall between the bedrooms.

[dmjalund]

Lucius have you read Deut 18:10-12? And it talks about how necromancers, charmers, those with familiars (is a palindromedary a familiar?), etcetera are an abomination unto the LORD? And the translation is well backed up?

Not in the original Klingon.

Lucius Alexander

Fixed that for you


and your palindromedary

[Ninja-Bear]

A king with a paranoia about witchcraft (James) and translators having to keep him happy..

Lucius Alexander

Just don't blame a palindromedary

Looked up the John Wycliffe's verison and he uses the word witch. I bring this up cause Wycliffe translated the first version in English 200 years before the King James version.

[Lucius]

Looked up the John Wycliffe's verison and he uses the word witch. I bring this up cause Wycliffe translated the first version in English 200 years before the King James version.

I wouldn't be surprised if the James team had a copy of Wycliffe.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary wants the Wycliffe's Notes Version

[Ninja-Bear]

I wouldn't be surprised if the James team had a copy of Wycliffe.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary wants the Wycliffe's Notes Version

Very possibly true. At some point (to me) you just have to have faith in the experts. Just as the experts claim Pluto is (or was) a planet.

[Narf the Mouse]

Very possibly true. At some point (to me) you just have to have faith in the experts. Just as the experts claim Pluto is (or was) a planet.

I'd rather have faith in God.

[Badger]

Very possibly true. At some point (to me) you just have to have faith in the experts. Just as the experts claim Pluto is (or was) a planet.

Dammit, Pluto is a planet. PLUTO! PLANET!!!

[Escafarc]

[Badger]

One person here mentioned dying might drive a ghost insane. I've got another idea.

While no decent person would want someone to perpetually grieve over them. It could quite painful emotionally to see loved ones forget you and move on. No matter how much you would want them to. And that could quite "seem" the case. I mean feeling forgotten often can cause the living to something drastic like commit suicide, the dead dont exactly have such drastic options and are stuck in the past.

[Clonus]

The Egyptians...at some points...believed that every human had multiple "souls". There was one that went on to better things, but there was also one that could be left behind that contained all that was worst in the deceased. Amusingly, none of the ghosts in Ghostbusters were in fact the souls of deceased people. Rather they were emotional echoes, created when someone dies in the grip of strong emotions like fear or anger. They couldn't be reasoned with because they weren't actually people. They were nonsentient.

[Shadowsoul]

The Egyptians...at some points...believed that every human had multiple "souls". There was one that went on to better things, but there was also one that could be left behind that contained all that was worst in the deceased. Amusingly, none of the ghosts in Ghostbusters were in fact the souls of deceased people. Rather they were emotional echoes, created when someone dies in the grip of strong emotions like fear or anger. They couldn't be reasoned with because they weren't actually people. They were nonsentient.

I wonder, would it be interesting/fun to create a kind of hierarchy of ghosts that could be encountered in a Fantasy World? Some ghosts are simply echoes of powerful emotion or a traumatic death, not actually a soul trapped on the mortal plane; they are weaker, (or at least less intelligent), than those ghosts who are actually complete souls that have either failed or refused to pass onto the afterlife.

The first type could be called Echoes or Fragments. The second type could be Ghosts, Spectres or Liches. Ghosts may be more mobile than Echoes, (not tied to a specific place), and might even be able to command these lesser spirits.

[Escafarc]

I think you could use the Chill source books to do that. I seem to remember there different levels spirit activity.