Naked Adder

[Dr Divago]

Hi
this look like a rule question to me, but i posted here (not in "rule question" section) because it could be also an "how to"

can i create a "naked adder"? similar to "naked advantage" but with adder?
assume i got a Resistent Protection (and this is persistent), defined like a protective field of energy around me

then i whant to "extend the field", i mean using it to protect carried items; this would normally be just a +10 point adder. However i whant this "extension" to cost END, requires concentration, and like, thus becoming constant

can i create a "naked adder" power, similar to "naked advantage" power?

[Derek Hiemforth]

Yes. (6E1 page 314, first paragraph under Naked Advantages)

[Dr Divago]

Ok thank you
so far, this build is legal?

30	Ice Shield:  (Total: 34 Active Cost, 30 Real Cost) Resistant Protection (8 PD/8 ED) (Real Cost: 24)
           plus
           Resistant Protection () (Protect Carried Items) (10 Active Points); Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), Costs Endurance (Only Costs END to Activate; -1/4) (Real Cost: 6) 	1

or i need to add something else? like Linked or Unified Power?

second question:
he has also a damage shield power linked to the RP while this was constant:

9	Iceshield Aura:  Blast 2 1/2d6, Area Of Effect (2m Surface; Damage Shield; +1/4), Constant (+1/2) (23 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), No Knockback (-1/4), Linked (Ice Shield; Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use; -1/4) 	2

now it's persistent so i need to change it removing the linked limitation? (or otherwise make them a -0 limitation)

10	Iceshield Aura:  Blast 2 1/2d6, Area Of Effect (2m Surface; Damage Shield; +1/4), Constant (+1/2) (23 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), No Knockback (-1/4), Linked (Ice Shield; Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use; Greater Power is Constant or in use most or all of the time; -0) 	2

[Derek Hiemforth]

Ok thank you
so far, this build is legal?

30	Ice Shield:  (Total: 34 Active Cost, 30 Real Cost) Resistant Protection (8 PD/8 ED) (Real Cost: 24)
           plus
           Resistant Protection () (Protect Carried Items) (10 Active Points); Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), Costs Endurance (Only Costs END to Activate; -1/4) (Real Cost: 6) 	1

or i need to add something else? like Linked or Unified Power?

That's legal. (In fact, I'd probably say it would not be legal if you did add Linked or Unified Power. )

I'm out of time right now, so I'll have to let someone else comment on the second one...

[Sean Waters]

second question:
he has also a damage shield power linked to the RP while this was constant:

9    Iceshield Aura:  Blast 2 1/2d6, Area Of Effect (2m Surface; Damage Shield; +1/4), Constant (+1/2) (23 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), No Knockback (-1/4), Linked (Ice Shield; Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use; -1/4)     2

now it's persistent so i need to change it removing the linked limitation? (or otherwise make them a -0 limitation)

10    Iceshield Aura:  Blast 2 1/2d6, Area Of Effect (2m Surface; Damage Shield; +1/4), Constant (+1/2) (23 Active Points); No Range (-1/2), Concentration (0 DCV; -1/2), No Knockback (-1/4), Linked (Ice Shield; Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use; Greater Power is Constant or in use most or all of the time; -0)     2

I believe you can take Linked (lesser to greater), greater in use most of the time, both before and after the change you wish to make and get -1/4 for it.

You should not be using "

Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use" as the Iceshield Aura is constant, not instant."

[Dr Divago]

I believe you can take Linked (lesser to greater), greater in use most of the time, both before and after the change you wish to make and get -1/4 for it.

You should not be using "

Lesser Instant Power can be used in any Phase in which greater Constant Power is in use" as the Iceshield Aura is constant, not instant."

Oh. ok. thanks
and what about "unified powers"?
and if ok: i should buy unified power limitation for iceshield aura and then for:
1- ice shield compund power, i mean applying to both ice shield powers
2- the RP base component of ice shield power
3- the naked adder component of ice shield power?

i'd go for both (answer 1)... what do you think about it?

[Ice9]

Answer 1 seems correct - since you would be applying it to that number of points if they were a single power.

[Sean Waters]

If a power is linked it is already, in effect, unified, so I do not think that can count toward your two or more powers.

[Christopher]

If a power is linked it is already, in effect, unified, so I do not think that can count toward your two or more powers.

Not nessesarily. When they are proportionally linked, then this is true is some way (at least the lesser power suffers the drain from the greater). But there are a lot of chases where it is not true.