How much would it take to get Champions 6e Reprinted? Polling support! "I would pay..

[Kaze9999]

Okay, I know nothing of the economics of game book publishing, but I have heard here that the cost of getting a printer to reprint 6e Champions in the glorious full color, hard-backed quality to which we are accustomed is prohibitive.

So I gotta wonder; if there were a Kickstarter for it; would it have a shot? Poll to follow. If I can figure out how to do a poll...SERIOUSLY, not "If I had the money", but what you would hand over $50 bucks up front for.

[Kaze9999]

Oh! And 'Valdorian Age'! I will give $50 to have that on PDF and a Hero Designer pack, never mind get it converted to 6th edition!

[Derek Hiemforth]

There's no option for NOTA.

There's nothing I would Kickstarter $50 for to get reprinted.

Which isn't to say I wouldn't Kickstarter $50 for anything. Quite the contrary. But it would need to be new stuff, not a reprint of something.

[Steve Long]

Before this goes too far on one front -- there's a HD Character Pack for the HSG already. Some ball simply got dropped somewhere along the line. I just sent it to Jason and he should have it posted for sale sometime in the relative near future.

[McCoy]

Sorry, I don't think I'll be getting dead tree editions in the foreseeable future. Probably all PDF's.

Now if someone could make Print-on-Demand work well enough to satisfy those who do want a paper copy --

[Kaze9999]

Before this goes too far on one front -- there's a HD Character Pack for the HSG already. Some ball simply got dropped somewhere along the line. I just sent it to Jason and he should have it posted for sale sometime in the relative near future.

Woot! Thanks, Steve! That makes it all worth while right there, for me!

Um...it seems like I cannot edit either the poll or the thread title; can I get some administrative help to either edit the poll choice for the 6e Grimoire HD Pack to "HERO System 6th Edition: Character Creation" or maybe if necessary go nuclear and delete the thread and I can consider putting up a new one later?

[AndyStaples]

Before this goes too far on one front -- there's a HD Character Pack for the HSG already. Some ball simply got dropped somewhere along the line. I just sent it to Jason and he should have it posted for sale sometime in the relative near future.

Huzzah! There's next payday's Hero purchase sorted then.

[Kaze9999]

Huzzah! There's next payday's Hero purchase sorted then.

LOL! Actually, full circle, but my next intended immediate purchases are aimed at the now limited edition hard backed hard copies, Fantasy Hero 6e and Space Hero 6e!

[RexMundi]

I'd toss in a couple of Hundred bucks on a Kickstarter Project for a 1 Book version of HERO 6E. No Color, No Glossy Pages, Single Book, Cleaned up. Hard Core Old School Style. Doesn't even have to be a hardback..... Hate this Glossy Page Crap and PDF's just make me wanna brain someone with their computer......

~Rex

[Kaze9999]

I'd toss in a couple of Hundred bucks on a Kickstarter Project for a 1 Book version of HERO 6E. No Color, No Glossy Pages, Single Book, Cleaned up. Hard Core Old School Style. Doesn't even have to be a hardback..... Hate this Glossy Page Crap and PDF's just make me wanna brain someone with their computer......

~Rex

Interesting take on 're-printing' book 1 of the HERO 6e rules! Without color and non-glossy, maybe it could be set up on Lulu as a 'Print on Demand' job? I think they only handle the epub format now though, not new PDF's.

And to expand our definition, would it be a 're-print' to put out a hard copy book of something that has already been published, but only in PDF? Like "
Champions Villains Volume Three: Solo Villains"? I think so!

[Beast]

I already have 6th ed 1 & 2
But what RexMundi said I'd pay 50$ to help kick start that

I'd toss in a couple of Hundred bucks on a Kickstarter Project for a 1 Book version of HERO 6E. No Color, No Glossy Pages, Single Book, Cleaned up. Hard Core Old School Style. Doesn't even have to be a hardback..... Hate this Glossy Page Crap and PDF's just make me wanna brain someone with their computer......

~Rex

[RexMundi]

Ha I knew I wasn't the only one. I even know it could be printed as well. MANY of the Construction trade books I had to work with were Gigantic. Hard Cover and Bound, of well beyond the page count of 6e Vol1+2. I've no doubt I would buy it even after kicking in the cask to Kickstarter it. Good course tough paper to so I can stick tabs on the book. Win Win Situation.

~Rex...Yes I said it, I HATE glossy Pages, could care less about Art (Unless it's Consistent and showcases the product instead of detracts from it), but a Book I could Use, that would be an investment I would make for the same set of rules again.

[Kaze9999]

Ha I knew I wasn't the only one. I even know it could be printed as well. MANY of the Construction trade books I had to work with were Gigantic. Hard Cover and Bound, of well beyond the page count of 6e Vol1+2. I've no doubt I would buy it even after kicking in the cask to Kickstarter it. Good course tough paper to so I can stick tabs on the book. Win Win Situation.

~Rex...Yes I said it, I HATE glossy Pages, could care less about Art (Unless it's Consistent and showcases the product instead of detracts from it), but a Book I could Use, that would be an investment I would make for the same set of rules again.

I see...sort of a 'no frills' engineering text/reference book approach to putting the whole core system into one tough, durable document. Wonder what that would cost? Maybe drop the art and put all the tables in the back....

[Lord Liaden]

Well, as Darren Watts once explained it, there's often a considerable additional expense incurred in printing a revised/ edited/ re-laid-out book, vs. reprinting a book in its existing form. Printers charge more for a new job (which a changed version of a book counts as) than for a new print run of a book they've already done and are set up for.

[RexMundi]

Somewhat familiar with the printing industry..... Only thing I'm changing in my dream version is removing that extra set of covers, going back to industrial strength pages instead of glossy paged drek, and of course, Black and White. If Anything, that's gonna be cheaper. If I wanted to remove all art the layout expense could end up being a tad more but the end result would still be cheaper. Especially if it goes to a new printer..... Had to dig through 14 sets of 6e rules to find one (and it was mostly the vol 1's) that didn't have a bubbled up cover and or tons of other cosmetic damage to it, though as it turns out that has been futile and I ended up having to make book covers for both my books since I couldn't bear to watch the covers disintegrate even more......

My 1st Ed through 4th ed books are in better shape then my 6e books and those guys have been on four continents and 20 plus years of travel. 5th Ed still solid but the cover is all dinged up and dog chewed but it's in one piece yet.....never got a 5th revised since i had all the fixes anyway....

So I still want my 6e Uni-Book of Old School Awesome... The degradation is so bad on my 6e books right now I'm tempted to rip off the covers, drill the pages and set some D rings but that's such a pain in the backside to do correctly....

~Rex