Where does it show the price list for Hero system equipment guide.

[sevrick]

Ok am I the only one who thinks that it is retarted that the hero system equipment guide gives no prices for the items in a book that is all about equipment. In the fantasy hero book it does but no other book that I have found. If there is some formula to figure out the price or what plz tell me.

[teh bunneh]

Do you mean monetary costs? Because the Active and Real costs (point costs) are listed in each table (under "A/R Cost").

[Greywind]

Before I can offer an answer I need to know what "retarted" means? Is that like making something sour, again?

[Kraven Kor]

There is no official formula. In most realistic modern games, you can just use real world prices. Fantasy Hero has the price chart. In most other settings, it is assumed that money is kind of inconsequential unless you choose to use it.

What I do, which works for my FH game, is to multiply the Active Points by the Real Cost and then multiply by the "tech level" of the item, in some fashion, but that is my house rule for magic items and may not translate to a non-Fantasy setting.

Using this, a Sword (1d6 HTH Killing Attack) is 15 AP, with OAF (-1) and Real Weapon (-1/4) for a Real Cost of 7. It is a "low tech" item so I multiply the end result by .1 - 15 x 7 is 80, 80 / .1 is 8 Silver for a 'normal sword.' A Magic Sword that is 1d6+1k, with 1d6k fire damage added, and double armor piercing, would be (using my builds / math): (30 AP x 11 Real Cost )(Sword) [330] + (15 AP x 6 Real Cost) [90] = 420, and as it is a magic item, it is "high tech" and I multiply that by 10 for 4200 Gold.

Doing this with real world prices or sci-fi equipment, I'd have to work something up using the information I have on the economy of the setting.

[Derek Hiemforth]

Ok am I the only one who thinks that it is retarted that the hero system equipment guide gives no prices for the items in a book that is all about equipment. In the fantasy hero book it does but no other book that I have found. If there is some formula to figure out the price or what plz tell me.

Monetary costs completely vary from world to world, and even within the same world. Including arbitrary price listings, in a book intended as a general supplement usable in many genres, would have been ridiculous, IMO.

(And I'm loving the irony in your post, by the way... )

[Tasha]

Ok am I the only one who thinks that it is retarded that the hero system equipment guide gives no prices for the items in a book that is all about equipment. In the fantasy hero book it does but no other book that I have found. If there is some formula to figure out the price or what plz tell me.

No I don't think that it's stupid that a Generic Equipment book would not have prices. A price list would be in the Genre Book. ie a Thompson Submachine Gun (ie Tommy Gun) was probably around $200 bucks in the 20's and 30's, which would probably be worth over $1000 dollars today, might be worth 10,000 credits in a few hundred years. That's why such lists are best kept to a Genre Book. If you need modern pricing for modern weapons then the internet is best place to go.

[Hugh Neilson]

Or three cows and fourteen chickens in a post-apocalyptic barter economy!

[bigbywolfe]

Ok am I the only one who thinks that it is retarted that the hero system equipment guide gives no prices for the items in a book that is all about equipment.

In a word: yes.Price is completely campaign dependant and including some arbitrary price in the equipment book would have been a waste of the author's time and a waste of page space.

[teh bunneh]

May I recommend "...And a 10 foot pole" from Iron Crown Games? It's got price lists from the stone age to modern times, for all sorts of adventuring (and non-adventuring) equipment. Here's a link:
http://www.icewebring.com/ICE_Produc...10_ft_Pole.php

[bluesguy]

What I have been doing my Valdorian Age campaign is collecting lists of items from various sources and then putting them into a spreadsheet. Within the spreadsheet there is the base cost and then formulas for low, slightly above average and expensive for each item. The Expensive includes a random factor to make it more interesting. As there are no magic items for sale that eliminates that problem. I have included such things as rent and services as well.

If there is an interest in the spreadsheet I can post it here.

[SteveZilla]

What I have been doing my Valdorian Age campaign is collecting lists of items from various sources and then putting them into a spreadsheet. Within the spreadsheet there is the base cost and then formulas for low, slightly above average and expensive for each item. The Expensive includes a random factor to make it more interesting. As there are no magic items for sale that eliminates that problem. I have included such things as rent and services as well.

If there is an interest in the spreadsheet I can post it here.

That sounds like a great tool. Color me interested.

[torchwolf]

What I have been doing my Valdorian Age campaign is collecting lists of items from various sources and then putting them into a spreadsheet. Within the spreadsheet there is the base cost and then formulas for low, slightly above average and expensive for each item. The Expensive includes a random factor to make it more interesting. As there are no magic items for sale that eliminates that problem. I have included such things as rent and services as well.

If there is an interest in the spreadsheet I can post it here.

Paint me intrigued.

[Tasha]

What I have been doing my Valdorian Age campaign is collecting lists of items from various sources and then putting them into a spreadsheet. Within the spreadsheet there is the base cost and then formulas for low, slightly above average and expensive for each item. The Expensive includes a random factor to make it more interesting. As there are no magic items for sale that eliminates that problem. I have included such things as rent and services as well.

If there is an interest in the spreadsheet I can post it here.

Sounds interesting and something that belongs on the Fantasy Hero boards

[Lucius]

Ok am I the only one who thinks that it is retarted that the hero system equipment guide gives no prices for the items in a book that is all about equipment. In the fantasy hero book it does but no other book that I have found. If there is some formula to figure out the price or what plz tell me.

The only one? Probably not. In a minority? I think so.

You see, a price that's valid for a costumed vigilante in a comic book world in 1980 is not valid for a pulp adventurer in 1925 or an alien tourist visiting Earth in 2112 or a wandering mutant in a postapocalyptic world in 1980 when the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1963 caused World War III....in short any price given will be wrong more often than right, so why bother?

What I have been doing my Valdorian Age campaign is collecting lists of items from various sources and then putting them into a spreadsheet. Within the spreadsheet there is the base cost and then formulas for low, slightly above average and expensive for each item. The Expensive includes a random factor to make it more interesting. As there are no magic items for sale that eliminates that problem. I have included such things as rent and services as well.

If there is an interest in the spreadsheet I can post it here.

Draw me blue. Or blow me drawn?

Anyway, yes, post it in Fantasy.

Lucius Alexander

The palindromedary is a sandy tan

[phoenix240]

Or three cows and fourteen chickens in a post-apocalyptic barter economy!

That's highway robbery! Two cows and 10 chickens at most!