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1 hour ago, Old Man said:

 

Time to turn in your Cobra Kai uniform, Jeff.  Maybe you can go train with that old Miyagi fellow.

 

I dunno, the first time I tried that guy he just wanted me to do a bunch of woodwork and painting on his property.  Sounded like a scam to me.

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I recognize that, but in this case I think it would have been true.  Manson belonged to no group but his own, and the diversity of people who hated him, and the intensity of feelings in response to the Tate murders, was ... impressive.

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8 hours ago, gewing said:

That is often said but it doesn't necessarily work out that way.

Personally I consider it a good thing that Lynchmobs are no longer a thing.

 

People often think being in Prision is "trivial".  But even this side of 3rd World Country hellholes, it is far from that. Just think about it for a moment: Being stuck in one place for years. Nothing to really distract you from the daily monotony. Falling out of the loop with your entire circle of friends and family.

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I sometimes wonder if offering a humane execution to life-sentence prisoners might be a small kindness that we could afford to give them. If you agree that someone should literally die in prison, doesn't it make sense to allow them the form of death that they feel involves the least suffering? If, on the other hand, you would use that as the argument against giving them the choice of death . . . well, when you're explicitly choosing to cause more suffering to the convict, I would suggest that perhaps you've shifted from "justice" to "revenge".

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Sigh. The above post has it dead right about "justice" in 'murca. It used to be forcing prisoners to exist (not live) in prison till they finally died was a sort of revenge porn or torture. In one case I recall a prisoner with cancer tried to decline cancer treatment as he had no chance  of getting out of prison, had no reason to live, was unwilling to undergo the painful and crippling treatments and would rather see the medical resources go to help someone who had a life with living.

 

The prison  forced  him to undergo treatment and the warden in an interview said wit a smile and a twinkle in his eyes that he had no choice in his life and owed it to the state to live as long as possible in prison even if he didn't want to. He also said it word e bad for prison discipline and control to give a prisoner any choices about his life and death. (I wonder if part of it was the warden getting a kickback from the medical firm billing the government for the treatment.)

 

The prisoner filed a lawsuit to win the right to refuse treatment and won, the judge saying the prison's attitude reeked of pettiness. 

 

Also in 'murcan prison death rows the staff goes to incredible lengths to prevent suicide. This is seen as forcing the prisoner to submit to execution rather than "cheat the hangman". Essentially establishibg the omnipotence of the state in matters of life and death.

 

Given the fact death panalty inmates are always disproportionally minorities there likely is a racial angle too, as in ”i ain't letting' no damn XXXXXX rob a white man of the pleasure of pulling the lever on him!"

 

In the book and movie "in cold blood"  Truman Capote emphasised the "no suicides allowed" mentality in death row units.

 

Not allowing prisoners to choose to die is generally an act of pettiness,  spite, arrogance and power tripping, traits which are common among those who put and keep people in prison.

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34 minutes ago, wcw43921 said:

Flat Earth Researcher To Launch Himself In Steam-Powered Rocket

 

I am reminded of the quote by Mark Twain--"A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way."

 

He's going to 1800 feet.

 

1800 feet.

 

Any money on him coming back and saying  'Yep, earth sure looks flat from here.  Flat earth confirmed!'

 

Which will be publicity for his campaign.

 

Also his statement that rocketry is just 'formulas and stuff', not 'science' is amazing.

 

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Sigh. How to debunk flat earthers..2 versions.

 

Version 1. Raise funds DS to lease a jumbo jet. Have live feed from its cockpit and instruments. Have live GPS feed online.  Take off from, say, LAX flying east. Keep flying east, landing and refueling, until you return to LAX from out of the west because you've flown around the planet in a matter of days 

 

Version 2. Call them a few vile names and ignore them . they're just attention seeking morons.

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