tkdguy Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Here's one idea how it can be done: http://io9.com/how-nasa-could-build-a-cloud-city-over-venus-1672240059/all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzimwi Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 NASA most certainly could NOT do that...maybe their grandchild organization in 2100. BTW, why would you want to put people on Venus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 This has been speculated for a while. Note that people will not attempt to land on the surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Baker Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 NASA can't even put a human in orbit currently, with their own vehicles. Cargo, yes, but I wouldn't want to be the one to go up that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I just read a Stephen Baxter short story (from the collection Traces) where Jurij Gagarin didn't actually die in a flight training exercise, but secretly became the first man on Venus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted December 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Orion's test flight went well, so hopefully NASA will soon be able to send astronauts back into space. As for that project, there's no projected timeline stated, so it will probably be kept in the back burner for a while, at least until after the Mars mission is accomplished. Maybe they'll be ready by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 You could test the concept here. Kick something into the right high-elliptical Earth orbit and try getting the package back from that orbit into aerofloatation in one analogous episode. Don't streamer your chute, though, or bad stuff happens. There have been discussions of missions that are aircraft descending into atmosphere before; I am aware of concepts involving fixed-wing planes operating in Martian atmosphere and Titan's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Onassiss Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Here's the original proposal by Geoffrey Landis: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20030022668.pdf Lots of good information there, including a surprising (and counterintuitive) answer to the question "Why settle Venus?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Marcus Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 ... To beat the Martians? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkdguy Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Interesting reading, that proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolgroth Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Wow, that proposal is interesting. In my now-defunct space opera game, there was a planet that actually replicated that process pretty well naturally. Massive cites were build high up, where the breathable stuff was. The cities themselves were supported by anti-gravity, but the idea of having the bad stuff way down and the good stuff where the cities are located is eerily similar to that proposal. Mind you, in my setting, there was more of a Star Wars feel to it so the cities were more open. I never considered the "splash" effect from the hostile parts of the environment. Anyway, cool proposal. Thanks for posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 ... To beat the Martians? My first thought was "to get to those hot Venusuan girls". But then I remebrered that 100° C and 92 Atmospheres pressure is a bit too hot. In truth, there are several advantages: More solar power (+40% over earth; +240% over mars) Inherent Radiation Shield even in that hight (where we have to dig underground on mars) Easier pressure and comparable temeprature differences on that height compared to earth ground The one advantage mars has is that is has walkable surface area. Wich we cannot use for anything but solar power & robotic industry because it is persistently irradiated. That leaves us digging habitats into the ground. After that jsut floating them in Venus atmopshere does sound like a pretty good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Onassiss Posted December 24, 2014 Report Share Posted December 24, 2014 Yeah, those Venusian girls are hotter than I like. But they'll cool off a bit once we export them, cuz you know Mars Needs Women. And there's also Amazon Women on the Moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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