From a related thread on the Fantasy Hero forum:
On a somewhat related note I was reviewing the Grab rules (which Disarm is just a specific case) and was reminded of the OCV and DCV modifiers that are imposed when the Grab is successful. It's not that big of a deal in a Fantasy Hero setting but in a Dark Champions setting with guns the penalties can be a very big deal. See this thread if you are interested in seeing more.
The penalties are only a huge deal if you don't use your grabbed opponent as jack armor/partial cover ... thereby offsetting the DCV penalty in a major way. (Since you're a John Wick fan, pay close attention to how Wick manipulates grabbed targets when other opponents are present; he frequently uses them as jack armor.)
John, when fully armed at least, is normally concerned with eliminating all recognized targets as quickly and efficiently (conserving ammunition) as possible. If someone is close enough that he can bring them down with some sort of grab or throw it then frees up his eyes and gun hand to focus on targets that are further away. Once the immediate far targets are eliminated he then can put head shots into the grabbed target. While using some grabbed targets as shields occurs (the red shirts in the Red Circle?) it's not a main strategy.
Yea, we'll have to agree to disagree on that -- given that Wick often uses 3 shots where 2 will do (example: when attacked in his home in the first movie) ... and given that his use of grabbed targets for cover was necessary for his success in Red Circle.
But we're off topic, here...
Any other opinions?
I just recently re-watched the kill-counter videos from both movies and only saw a few cases of John actually using cover and none involved him using a 'meat-shield'. His grabs of opponents looked primarily intended to keep that particular opponent from being an immediate threat which freed up his gun hand to deal with other gun toting opponents nearby. Once the ranged threats are dealt with he then usually makes a comparatively easy head shot vs. the grabbed target.
here are the kill counter videos: