Marcus Impudite Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 We're all familiar, through the Mad Max franchise and others, with the idea of a post-apocalyptic world where all or most of the planet is a scorching hot desert environment. How about a one-eighty on that concept: how about a winter wasteland? The idea is the planet is in a new ice age and even setting foot outside requires you to either be physiologically adapted to intense cold or put on full cold weather gear like an Eskimo. Perils could include raging snow and ice storms, attacks by mutant polar bears, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Nuclear Winter is a thing that could happen, so that would be one way such a world could come into being. Is it a wet cold or a dry cold? You could easily have a desert without snow. It's just freezing cold instead of scorching hot. I think D&D's Dark Sun setting was originally going to be a frozen one, but the story I heard is that they changed it to a desert to show more skin in the artwork for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Well, the desert scenario has been done many times. Most famously in Dune and repeated in all the global warming books. The lack of water is the universal problem. If you have it food will come to it. The cold scenario has the problem of finding surviving plants in large enough concentration to sustain a life cycle. Finding an energy source or even just a reliable supply of fuel for fires will come next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Quintet The Day After Tomorrow would probably qualify as the apocalyptic event destroying civilization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjack Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 We're all familiar, through the Mad Max franchise and others, with the idea of a post-apocalyptic world where all or most of the planet is a scorching hot desert environment. How about a one-eighty on that concept: how about a winter wasteland? The idea is the planet is in a new ice age and even setting foot outside requires you to either be physiologically adapted to intense cold or put on full cold weather gear like an Eskimo. Perils could include raging snow and ice storms, attacks by mutant polar bears, etc. We had to dig our car out this morning, didn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banakles Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 The Colony and Snowpiercer come to mind as well. I haven't read this but it sounds interesting and may relate to your setting idea, The Last centurion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Impudite Posted December 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 We had to dig our car out this morning, didn't we? LOL. To be sure, I've had winter mornings where I've had to chisel an thick sheath of ice off my vehicle before I could get underway. And they say Hell never freezes over... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
薔薇語 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 What if mankind was able to build vast underground / under ice domes to live in? They could draw their power from the geothermal energy from the earth to heat an area. Water was not a big issue since they had vast supplies of ice all around them / above them but because it is so cold, venturing out of an area could easily spell doom. A few decades or generations pass and people are still meeking out a life with almost no knowledge of outsiders and the corruption of those in charge has begun to spell doom for what little life still exists. Of course there are stories, stories of vast interlaced structures beyond the walls of one's home. Cities and civilizations where the food is abundant, the rulers just, and hope abounds. If only... If only you could get there. What would you risk? The things that survived the Freeze are not things to be trifled with. To leave the sanctum is to welcome the cold agonizing hand of death - or worse. --For me I am thinking of a world that has suffered two major cataclysms. The first more gradual than the second: wide scale global warming followed by The Freeze. All of the polar ice melted and that combined with several seismic disturbances had crippled the world's population. Nations fled into sea-domes. These structures acted akin to imagines of Atlantis - vast inhabited structures that are either fully or largely submerged in water. Most of them using boats and a wide array of underground tunnels to stay connected. But that is when the second tragedy struck, literally. A planet killing asteroid / comet struct land. This set off a chain reaction where the Earth's spin became more erratic and the ensuing dust clouds that swallowed the Earth plunged it into a new ice age. In a way the Earthlings were lucky that the waterworld disaster came first because they were already stationed in largely self sustaining structures that could keep out the cold. But with quakes destroying their connecting tunnels and The Freeze cutting off their sea travels, people are left alone in isolated structures that can not grow and expand with them. Suffocating under the slow stagnation of confinement. While there was no nuclear winter in my scenario, the damaged incurred by the atmosphere left the surface more prone to solar and galactic radiation. Generations of animals have survived all of this but have been left changed. Some horribly so. Existence on the frozen surface is not a joyous one. Just a starting idea when I heard about a Winter Post-Apoc. Soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmjalund Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Antifreeze would be as valued a commodity as petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 LOL. To be sure, I've had winter mornings where I've had to chisel an thick sheath of ice off my vehicle before I could get underway. And they say Hell never freezes over... The lowest layer of Hell in Dante's Inferno is frozen. Living in Canada, I tend to feel he got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariah Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 Nuclear winter brought on by a full nuclear exchange, combined with all manner of nasty mutated monsters created by the fallout, would make for a very interesting campaign setting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 The Colony and Snowpiercer come to mind as well. I haven't read this but it sounds interesting and may relate to your setting idea, The Last centurion Beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maccabe Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Actually I would like to see this idea fleshed out, it could be interesting. As a note I once created a Fantasy setting where half the world was covered in snow & ice, and it was spreading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesedrith Posted January 30, 2016 Report Share Posted January 30, 2016 I must admit that I'd go with something along the lines of The Day After Tomorrow as my scenario. PC's start out above the "evacuation line" and must now survive the hypercold storms bringing in the new ice age. After those storms, they must now still survive their changed world. Do they head south where they can work out that all 8 billion humans are crowded into a region within about 30-degrees latitude of the Equator and try to carve out a little piece of territory, or do they try to adapt and survive to the conditions farther north and less crowded? Either way, there are survival challenges as civilization and society break down, people start starving and freezing, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Don't forget these guys. Some giant impact scenarios have the catastrophic impact, followed by near-worldwide fire, followed by the nuclear winter type phenomenon, something less than a century from impact to NW. How long that NW lasts is ... not all that important to an RPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I happened to see The Revenant this weekend in the theater, and in many ways it reminded me of Mad Max, only with ice instead of deserts. Food, fire, and clothing become the scarce resources in such a setting--and that's not even a fully iced over area; there were still plenty of trees and sources of running water for people to take advantage of. A howling wasteland of ice and snow would be another level entirely. Cold survival is more difficult in many ways than in the desert. There's so many little ways to get killed in the cold. Let the fire go out, you die. Lose your flint and steel in the snow, you die. Get your clothes too wet, you die. Crevasses, avalanches, blizzards, slipping on the ice, breaking through the ice, caught outside at night, die die die die die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 Most of the cold-climate population lives right off the ocean, both because of the climate-moderating effect of the liquid water, and the availability of large high-nutritive-value food animals in the sea. Inland cold-climate people tend to follow herds, either wild or domesticated. Whether the ecosystem was stable enough to have reestablished any of those food animal populations is open to question. An intriguing idea would be a quasi-Iceland area, with glaciers and ice always present, but volcanism always present as well, giving the possibility of harnessing geothermal sources. In fact, I could imagine a surviving geothermal plant being a high civilization center that dominated an extended area (or was under continuous assault by snow barbarians). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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