Cassandra Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I know this will probably get me banned, but I have to say it. The Dark Knight trilogy is overrated. The Dark Knight was a great movie if overly violent, and seemed to be more a James Bond movie at times. Batman Begins was too slow in the set up, and was redeemed by Batman's last line to Ras. The Dark Knight Rises has Catwoman, some impressive special effects, but has enough plot holes to fly the Batplane through. Spence and Armory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Marvel didn't yet have a formula when Batman Begins or The Dark Knight came out. In fact, I'd say their formula for success didn't really emerge until 2012 when The Avengers thoroughly eclipsed Dark Knight Rises. The decision to approach superheroes "realistically" and "seriously" wasn't a particularly awful one, as it potentially offered a point of distinction with what Marvel was coming out with, but that wasn't the start of their corporate psychosis, in my view. They didn't truly go off the rails until after The Avengers put incredible pressure on WB to turn Man of Steel into the basis for a shared universe. It was that strategic decision, along with completely untenable time tables, that put them on the path to implosion they are now trying to rescue themselves from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 The first two Batman movies were really well done and enjoyable, the third was miserable. Just an awful film, and a waste of Bane as a character. HOw can you go so wrong with a guy that's a huge Mexican Wrestler type who uses super steroids to go nuts and get insanely stronger? Plus being a mastermind? Nolan blew it. But the first two were really well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: The first two Batman movies were really well done and enjoyable, the third was miserable. Just an awful film, and a waste of Bane as a character. HOw can you go so wrong with a guy that's a huge Mexican Wrestler type who uses super steroids to go nuts and get insanely stronger? Plus being a mastermind? Nolan blew it. But the first two were really well done. I couldn't get past Bane having been Shinzon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I've never liked Bane. Not in Batman and Robin. Not in The Dark Knight Rises. And not in the comics. Doc Shadow, aylwin13, Matt the Bruins and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU Neil Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Greywind said: I've never liked Bane. Not in Batman and Robin. Not in The Dark Knight Rises. And not in the comics. I've never liked Bane either... which is why I probably enjoyed Dark Knight Rises more than most. I loved Hathaway's Catwoman and the broken down Bruce Wayne, and Joseph Gorden Robin, and the Talia twist. The movie was needlessly complex and had major plot holes, but Bane was just a big thug that was distracting from the real villain, which I was just fine with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slikmar Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 I liked Bane for what he was originally, which is a physically powerful crime lord who was also smart and tactically intelligent. He was there to break the bat so they could switch to Azrael. the writers then did a good job of creating a villain to do that. He setup Bats to wear himself down on all his other villains before confronting him. I have not liked him since. To me, he was the equivalent of Wolverine in X-Men when they started. Great for the first few stories/run, but not making sense as a multiple group member. Bane was a great 1 shot villain. He was far from the character in Batman forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: The first two Batman movies were really well done and enjoyable, the third was miserable. Just an awful film, and a waste of Bane as a character. HOw can you go so wrong with a guy that's a huge Mexican Wrestler type who uses super steroids to go nuts and get insanely stronger? Plus being a mastermind? Nolan blew it. But the first two were really well done. Liked the first movie, liked the second movie up until that ending which I despised then and despise now, walked out of the third one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Cassandra said: I know this will probably get me banned, but I have to say it. No, no it won't... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlord Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Linda Carter finally gets star on Walk of Fame Christopher R Taylor and Cassandra 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted April 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Starlord said: Linda Carter finally gets star on Walk of Fame She looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 Loved her voice work on Skyrim, she did Gormlaith and Aszura. In fact, she's been doing voice work for them since Morrowind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Shadow Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Cassandra said: She looks good. I'll second that! Cassandra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassandra Posted April 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 21 hours ago, Doc Shadow said: I'll second that! I think it's because women who acted in the 1970s ate real food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_A Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 1:12 PM, Cassandra said: I know this will probably get me banned, but I have to say it. The Dark Knight trilogy is overrated. The Dark Knight was a great movie if overly violent, and seemed to be more a James Bond movie at times. Batman Begins was too slow in the set up, and was redeemed by Batman's last line to Ras. The Dark Knight Rises has Catwoman, some impressive special effects, but has enough plot holes to fly the Batplane through. Why would having an opinion get you banned? There's an entire thread on the board called Destroy Your Geek Cred that's entirely about stuff like this. As far as the Dark Knight Trilogy, yeah it's okay, but not great. I could name 5 comic book movies and 10 "mainstream" movies that are better. That's just off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkonduty Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, Andrew_A said: As far as the Dark Knight Trilogy, yeah it's okay, but not great. I could name 5 comic book movies and 10 "mainstream" movies that are better. That's just off the top of my head. And go! (Just for the record, I am not a fan of the Dark Knight stuff either. It's okay, not great.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 As I always say, "I don't like it" is not synonymous with "It's no good." Subjective taste and objective quality are both valid, but entirely different measures. I can appreciate a fictional entertainment for its production values, cinematography, intelligent script, skilled acting, etc., yet not enjoy it. OTOH I can recognize that something is poorly put together while still having fun watching it. For the record I put the Dark Knight trilogy in the former category. I admire what it accomplished but have no desire to watch any of those movies again. But I'm also no fan of the Batman character generally. (Now that may bring the haters down on my head.) Andrew_A, drunkonduty, Armory and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattern Ghost Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: But I'm also no fan of the Batman character generally I'm not a fan of what Miller and the Miller Lites have done to him, but I like DCAU Bats. (Even though DCAU Bats is a bit infected by Miller too.) Andrew_A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Lord Liaden said: As I always say, "I don't like it" is not synonymous with "It's no good." It is when I say it. Armory, Spence and RDU Neil 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazza Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, Old Man said: It is when I say it. "...and that's when the destruction began.", Old Man, New God, Apokolips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Mk. IV Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 I'll watch The Dark Knight for Heath Ledger's iconic performance, but the other two are meh to me (although Anne Hathaway in latex is a draw). Armory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Anne was great to look at in the third but its overall a turd. The first one I love the mob boss, one of the best bad guys in cinema. He should have been given a lot more play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zslane Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 There's a new writer assigned to the Batgirl movie, and while I guess I should be pleased to see that this project has a faint pulse again, I'm not getting my hopes up that it will ever get out of pre-production hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 22 hours ago, Watchman Mk. IV said: I'll watch The Dark Knight for Heath Ledger's iconic performance, but the other two are meh to me (although Anne Hathaway in latex is a draw). Now this will the torches and pitchforks.... I thought Heath Ledger played the part he was given well. But I didn't like that version of Joker. Doc Shadow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman Mk. IV Posted April 11, 2018 Report Share Posted April 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Spence said: Now this will the torches and pitchforks.... I thought Heath Ledger played the part he was given well. But I didn't like that version of Joker. No pitchforks, maybe a Batarang or two... I thought it was great. It cleaved closer to the comics and was a wide departure from previous portrayals. slikmar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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