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#4841 Tech priest support

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:51 PM

Maybe trump will hurt so many Americans so badly it will teach people tat how they vote and not voting have real consequences.

I'm not counting in it as the plutocracy has worked to essentially dumb down the american public so long that stupidity, selfishness and abusiveness are lauded as virtues while intelligence is despised in modern America.
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Posted 15 October 2017 - 04:36 PM

Last week, All Things Considered aired a rather interesting report on how Trump weaponizes patriotism in order to bully others and get his way:

 

http://www.npr.org/2...o-his-advantage

 

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:12 PM

The political vulnerability of Trump's approach, as I see it, is that he is playing to the culture war as the way to get re-elected.  But many of those who voted for him actually did vote out of economic anxiety or desperation, wanting some action to improve their situations--better jobs, better wages, etc.  It seems like he hasn't really done anything to improve their lives in that way.  So a Democratic challenger could pitch a fairly simple trio of economic proposals calculated to make some positive impact in the lives of Americans in general and the working class in particular, and pull votes away from Trump's coalition(which only got him to 46% in the first place).  


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:43 PM

Trump has weaponized 3 common and powerful forces: willfull stupidity, willfull ignorance and hate. His whole campaign was based on these and simple solutions to complex problems, often involving violence. Remember his "beat the crap out of him!” and " maybe you second amendment people can do something about it(Hillary Clinton)" while making a rifle firing gesture.


For decades the right in america has been creating a climate of manufactured fear, manufactured outrage and real hate in america. Remember those cute little "if we outlaw guns how will we shoot all the liberals?" from years and years ago?

The thing is, the right has created a climate of hate in america, but the DC baseball practice shooting shows that while you can create a climate you can't always control which way the wind blows.
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"You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views. Which can be very uncomfortable if you're one of the facts that needs altering." The Doctor.