fellmoon Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Okay, I have a question about the aid power, we are running a low powered game for 5th ed, and three players made siblings with a similar theme on powers, they work as batteries for the tank in the group. All of them have aid to strength at 2d6 and I was wondering if the aid from the three sources stack with one another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper-Man Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 No. From 5er page 106, Maximum EffectAbsorption, Aid, and Transfer have maximum effects. These Powers can Adjust a maximum amount of points equal to the maximum amount you can roll on the dice — for example, Absorption (Energy) 2d6 could Absorb a maximum of 12 BODY from energy attacks. You can increase this maximum by 2 points for every 1 Character Point spent (add this cost to the power before applying any Advantages). A character may achieve this maximum with one or more rolls; later rolls do not have to exceed the total of prior rolls to provide additional benefit. (A similar Adjustment Power, Healing, works differently; see page 185.)Even if two different characters use separate versions of one of these powers on the same character’s Characteristic or Power, the maximum number of points they can add to that character equals the largest maximum for any of the powers used. For example, one character with a Aid STR 2d6 can add 12 Character Points’ worth of STR to a target — but two characters, each with Aid STR 1d6, can only add 6 points of STR to a target. HM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3taso Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 Unless you can shoehorn cumulative on there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eepjr24 Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 You would have to add it to all of them. And then you still don't add to each others, you just increase the maximum that each can do over time. If you just want to go for maximum cheese factor you chain the aids. You have the first character aid the second characters aid of the third characters aid which targets the warriors strength. Of course if you went that route as a GM I would just start having enemy mages do AOE aid drains. Cheese begets cheese. - E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 One of the guys just needs to buy up his maximum. So if 3 guys each have a 2D6 Aid, they can only add a maximum of 12 points. But if two guys have a 2D6 Aid, and one guy has a 2D6 Aid + 24 to maximum, then as long as he's involved, they can Aid up to 36 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 You would have to add it to all of them. And then you still don't add to each others, you just increase the maximum that each can do over time. If you just want to go for maximum cheese factor you chain the aids. You have the first character aid the second characters aid of the third characters aid which targets the warriors strength. Of course if you went that route as a GM I would just start having enemy mages do AOE aid drains. Cheese begets cheese. - E Nah. Power Defense, Usable As Attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grailknight Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 No, if only one buys up his maximum, only he can aid above 12 points. The other guys cannot contribute to a total above 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massey Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 No, if only one buys up his maximum, only he can aid above 12 points. The other guys cannot contribute to a total above 12. Read the second paragraph from Hyper-Man's quote above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Try using STR, Usable by Other, instead. That will stack. Lucius Alexander Stacking a palindromedary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuSoardGraphite Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Yeah. Have each buy increased maximum for 1 cp per +2 maximum. So for the same points as 2d6 Aid (20 points) they can each have 1d6 +20 max for a total maximum of +26 STR. Individually, they can only pump 6 points into the Brick at a time, but collectively over time they can give the Brick +26 STR, which adds 5d6 to the Bricks base damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrealone Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I'm with Lucius on this one for a stackable approach. Unlike with Aid (an instant power), using this approach the STR is only granted as long as the power is slotted/active and endurance is paid for it (per phase) by each grantor. However, offsetting the need to keep the power slotted/active and pay END for it is the fact that there's no ramp up, variability, or fade. These material differences are important -- because they're what make this power distinct/separate from Aid (meaning if you go this route you're clearly not using one power to duplicate another power's effects). +16 STR, Usable By Other (+1/4) (20 Active Points) If all 3 grantors are using this, that's +48 STR granted to the brick. This would up his damage by 9.5 DC's ... at the expense of 2 END per phase per grantor (for a total of 6 END per phase paid by all grantors, combined). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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