TheQuestionMan Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Starting Points; Complications: Archetypes: Power Level Cap: 80 Active Points Max Skill Level Cap: 16- DCV/OCV: 8 to 10 PD/ED: 40 rPD/rED: 20 (60 Active Points) Limits: Martial Arts: Western Only? Followers: How many? How Frequently? Resources: Vehicles & Bases Wealth: Max Starting Contacts: President? Director of FBI? etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcw43921 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Perhaps time travel scenarios could be on the table, in one of three ways-- *Modern era PCs traveling back to the Golden Age to stop another time traveler from altering history, teaming up with their own Golden Age PCs and possibly meeting their own ancestors. *Golden Age PCs trying to prevent time travelers from altering history--and not just Nazi or Imperial Japanese time travelers either. I'm thinking that travelers from the Cold War might go back for an assassination attempt on Stalin, or British time travelers could go back to give Britain the secret of the atom bomb, so the British could end the war almost immediately after it begins, and retain its place as the dominant power in the world. *Golden Age PCs traveling in time themselves to stop Axis time travelers from altering history or bringing back future technology to win the war. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Maybe a little bit about the organizations involved? I mean, I know the national governments in the conflict, but what government agencies and affiliated groups are players in the campaign? Who's responsible for what? Any activity among the private factions of the setting? For example, I know the Circle of the Scarlet Moon were supposed to have assisted the RSvKg. FenrisUlf and Ninja-Bear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Starting Points; Complications: Archetypes: Power Level Cap: 80 Active Points Max Skill Level Cap: 16- DCV/OCV: 8 to 10 PD/ED: 40 rPD/rED: 20 (60 Active Points) Limits: Martial Arts: Western Only? Followers: How many? How Frequently? Resources: Vehicles & Bases Wealth: Max Starting Contacts: President? Director of FBI? etc... Sorry, I'm still missing the question here. Are you asking if these are reasonable numbers? They're higher than I use, but sure, why not? dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Maybe a little bit about the organizations involved? I mean, I know the national governments in the conflict, but what government agencies and affiliated groups are players in the campaign? Who's responsible for what? Any activity among the private factions of the setting? For example, I know the Circle of the Scarlet Moon were supposed to have assisted the RSvKg. Well, I didn't write much new about the existing groups- the Circle gets some mention because they're bigger then than now, but Demon takes most of the war off and Viper's still the Council of Thirty. The RSvKg gets written up as Totenkopf's support group, and Project Rainbow in the US gets a writeup (and a base.) The Defenders work directly for FDR through Harry Hopkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Darren, how many of the NPC heroes and villains you gave totals for earlier on the thread will be getting full character sheets and artwork, as opposed to abbreviated descriptions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just looking for numbers. Also looking for Archetypes... Superhero Tropes or our versions of Unique characters? QM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Darren, how many of the NPC heroes and villains you gave totals for earlier on the thread will be getting full character sheets and artwork, as opposed to abbreviated descriptions? Those are the ones with character sheets. Some sections include a handful of "lesser" characters who just get a short paragraph, and the first part of Chapter 6 is a run-through of characters who have sheets in other CU titles, but there's going to be well over 60 total new complete character writeups. aylwin13 and Lord Liaden 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Just looking for numbers. Also looking for Archetypes... Superhero Tropes or our versions of Unique characters? QM Aah, I think I get you now. (You really need more complete sentences, if you're going to go around calling yourself QuestionMan!) Golden Age is a "Low-Powered Supers" setting according to the standards set in 6e1. It doesn't use NCM. Most of the characters have 50-60 AP for their main power, but there's a wide variety there depending on their roles. And there's a ridiculously-complete list of archetypes and sub-archetypes. I'm not including any definitions here (buy the dang book!) but here's the complete list of archetypes discussed: I. Bricks Flying Bricks Indestructible Bricks Strange Visitors Perfected Bricks Exploding Bricks Chemically Improved Bricks Mechanically Improved Bricks II. Energy Projectors Elementalists Focus Wielders III. Mystics Inheritors of Ancient Magic Stage Performers Occult Detectives Ghosts IV. Speedsters Traditional Speedsters Flyers Swimmers V. Weaponmasters Archers Anachronistic Lawmen Vehicle Masters VI. Mystery Men (replaces Martial Artist) Costumed Detective Femme Fatale Frustrated Lawman Great White Hunter Mystery Man of Science Trained Fighter Wild Man or Woman VII. Others Gadgeteers Mentalists Metamorphs Powered Armor Patriots VIII.Sidekicks Derivative Kid Female Counterpart Comic Relief Boy In Charge Beast, aylwin13, assault and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadDomain Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Aah, I think I get you now. (You really need more complete sentences, if you're going to go around calling yourself QuestionMan!) Golden Age is a "Low-Powered Supers" setting according to the standards set in 6e1. It doesn't use NCM. Most of the characters have 50-60 AP for their main power, but there's a wide variety there depending on their roles. And there's a ridiculously-complete list of archetypes and sub-archetypes. I'm not including any definitions here (buy the dang book!) but here's the complete list of archetypes discussed: I. Bricks Flying Bricks Indestructible Bricks Strange Visitors Perfected Bricks Exploding Bricks Chemically Improved Bricks Mechanically Improved Bricks II. Energy Projectors Elementalists Focus Wielders III. Mystics Inheritors of Ancient Magic Stage Performers Occult Detectives Ghosts IV. Speedsters Traditional Speedsters Flyers Swimmers V. Weaponmasters Archers Anachronistic Lawmen Vehicle Masters VI. Mystery Men (replaces Martial Artist) Costumed Detective Femme Fatale Frustrated Lawman Great White Hunter Mystery Man of Science Trained Fighter Wild Man or Woman VII. Others Gadgeteers Mentalists Metamorphs Powered Armor Patriots VIII.Sidekicks Derivative Kid Female Counterpart Comic Relief Boy In Charge That's a good list! Will they be converted similarly to the Champions Gallery in Champions (something I thought was cruelly missing from Champions Complete). Also, any indication of cost of shipping to Australia? Finally, would you care to name the characters on the cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 So can trained fighter be used as a martial artist? bubba smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Finally, would you care to name the characters on the cover? I recognize most of them from references elsewhere. The guy in yellow and green socking Hitler in the jaw is Bulletproof (who reappears in the far future in Galactic Champions). The fella emerging from darkness on the far right is Dr. Twilight, grandfather of Dr. Ka, the mystic hero from Vibora Bay. The girl punching the giant robot is the Sea Hawk, aka Princess Mara of Atlantis (Queen Mara in modern day, as described in Hidden Lands). Dude in blue and white at bottom left is Optimus, leader of the Defenders of Justice. I'm afraid I don't recognize the energy projector at upper left. FenrisUlf and Darren Watts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I recognize most of them from references elsewhere. The guy in yellow and green socking Hitler in the jaw is Bulletproof (who reappears in the far future in Galactic Champions). The fella emerging from darkness on the far right is Dr. Twilight, grandfather of Dr. Ka, the mystic hero from Vibora Bay. The girl punching the giant robot is the Sea Hawk, aka Princess Mara of Atlantis (Queen Mara in modern day, as described in Hidden Lands). Dude in blue and white at bottom left is Optimus, leader of the Defenders of Justice. I'm afraid I don't recognize the energy projector at upper left. It's the Golden Age Meteor Man, as described way back in 5th Ed Champions Universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 So can trained fighter be used as a martial artist? Yup! Eastern martial arts knowledge is pretty anachronistic, particularly in pop culture, but "super" heroes who basically had a gimmick costume and some boxing or wrestling knowledge (Wildcat, Crimebuster, Atom, Guardian) are pretty common. FenrisUlf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 That's a good list! Will they be converted similarly to the Champions Gallery in Champions (something I thought was cruelly missing from Champions Complete). Also, any indication of cost of shipping to Australia? Finally, would you care to name the characters on the cover? There aren't character sheets for these, just textual discussions of their tropes, typical powers and skills and whatnot. And I wouldn't presume to guess about international shipping, especially months in advance. Jason will put together the best deals he can at the time. dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawnmower Boy Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I recognize most of them from references elsewhere. The guy in yellow and green socking Hitler in the jaw is Bulletproof (who reappears in the far future in Galactic Champions). The fella emerging from darkness on the far right is Dr. Twilight, grandfather of Dr. Ka, the mystic hero from Vibora Bay. The girl punching the giant robot is the Sea Hawk, aka Princess Mara of Atlantis (Queen Mara in modern day, as described in Hidden Lands). Dude in blue and white at bottom left is Optimus, leader of the Defenders of Justice. I'm afraid I don't recognize the energy projector at upper left. Wait a minute! Bulletproof is 800 points in Galactic Champions. That's not low-powered at all! This product is dead to me! Dead, I say! . . . Or maybe it's using the mystic teachings it picked up in the forbidden monasteries of Tibet to pretend to be dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Wait a minute! Bulletproof is 800 points in Galactic Champions. That's not low-powered at all! This product is dead to me! Dead, I say! . . . Or maybe it's using the mystic teachings it picked up in the forbidden monasteries of Tibet to pretend to be dead. Bulletproof went through a lot before an encounter with a mysterious cosmic being in 1947 hurled him into the year 3000. He started out as just a tough but normal brawler wearing a protective costume of experimental materials. It wasn't until 1944 that he was accidentally exposed to an experiment by Der Totenkopf which gave him true superhuman invulnerability. And yes, I realize you were making a joke. But you raise the issue, yer gonna get an answer whether you like it or not. Beast, Tasha, DShomshak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Yup! Eastern martial arts knowledge is pretty anachronistic, particularly in pop culture, but "super" heroes who basically had a gimmick costume and some boxing or wrestling knowledge (Wildcat, Crimebuster, Atom, Guardian) are pretty common. I believe that the Eastrrn Art of Judo/Jujitsu should be available.to a PC. Cyclone and.Black Cat used it though it should be awfully rare! : ) bubba smith, Twilight and Tasha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Yup! Eastern martial arts knowledge is pretty anachronistic, particularly in pop culture, but "super" heroes who basically had a gimmick costume and some boxing or wrestling knowledge (Wildcat, Crimebuster, Atom, Guardian) are pretty common. Not even a Yengtao-trained fighter from that era, like the Cobra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Not even a Yengtao-trained fighter from that era, like the Cobra? While there's no good in-setting reason why not, characters like that don't necessarily fit into the sub-genre. "Trained in the Mystic East" was a valid origin type, dating back to Mandrake and the Shadow, but it might be better to restrict them to mystic/mentalist types. Lord Liaden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Ops Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just do me a favor and don't make the germans too onesided. I admit that even I as a german can have fun bashing Nazis I hate it when we are displayed as too stereotypical. Thanks (Will back this) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Just do me a favor and don't make the germans too onesided. I admit that even I as a german can have fun bashing Nazis I hate it when we are displayed as too stereotypical. Thanks (Will back this) Most Germans at this time were good Germans, not necessary Nazi party members, but in beliefe that there problems were the fault of the other european counties and the jewish people (this, turning a blind eye to what there goverment did to them, since they were the other). Fortunately there were bad Germans who helped jews and were against there government, but had to do so in secret, or leave and disown there motherland. There were no german expatriote characters except for the occasional scientist who is available for an orgin story for a superhero and get killed by german Nazi spys. bubba smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 As I understand it, Golden Age characters are alittle one-trick ponies. (Not rhat I mind). So are you going to discuss the use of Power Skill in depth? I could be wrong but even in GA, didn't the Heroes sometimes used a one off power? bubba smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 The closest I can remember of there being bad germans in comic books were The Blackhawks, and they only vaugly count, since they were all from occupied counties held by the Axis powers. One could call the personification of Germany and Persua in Hetalia as a bad Germans, but that series was created way after WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Watts Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 I believe that the Eastrrn Art of Judo/Jujitsu should be available.to a PC. Cyclone and.Black Cat used it though it should be awfully rare! : ) Anything's *available*. It's just not common. Heck, Sherlock Holmes used "baritsu." And it's not that westerners didn't know eastern martial arts existed, we just didn't have much specific knowledge about how they worked, leading to hilariously incorrect portrayals occasionally. Ever see Jimmy Cagney's judo in Blood On The Sun? dw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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