steriaca Posted March 23, 2017 Report Share Posted March 23, 2017 While money is power, ARGENT Management is rather smart. There are tons of rich villains ARGENT is careful enough to not accept money from. Mechanon pays in BitCoins, but they would be a fool to accept. Doctor Destroyer pays in gold, but again, they would be foolish to accept. Captain Cronos pays with future knowledge. Foxbat pays in bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothere Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 O.k. with all this talk of the ARGENT Acquisitions, Inhuman Resources, and talk of a sourcebook I'm going to go from general ARGENT structure to something I used as ARGENT's top field agent. Johnny on the spot doesn't have a costume or a mask. He's always on the phone and will interrupt making threats to heroes and giving orders to his henchmen to convince one guy weither he should invest in squash or beets, another about how to set up his corporation to avoid a tax in Zimbabwe, and another that He should not invest in movie because it would bomb. He usually works with mercenaries or occasionally hires the campain's supervillains. He shows up to steal rare items, or destroy something a corporation's new device. The most annoying thing about him is that when caught he melts into a pile of goo, and his phone blows up. What the heroes in my game never learned was Johnny was a product of Telios cloning tank and ARGENT had a dozen of him in reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted March 26, 2017 Report Share Posted March 26, 2017 Excaliber & M.I. 13's Secret Invasion. The Skrulls used advanced technology to control and counter magic without ever creating there own. And the Galadorians created Rom's Neutralizer weapon that could nullify any type of energy, even magical energy. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Rom%27s_Neutralizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Reminds me, anyone intrested in doing an official ARGENT pdf? Or are we wishing for Steve Long to pick up his pen and do this after he gets done with his dream book turning into reality Mythic Hero? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorkca Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Someone took this info and put it into a PDF already, somewhere easier in the thread... and... Is ARGENT an anacronym for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Yes. Yes it is. It stands for "Advance Research Group ENTerprise", and it is a business name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorkca Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 Yes. Yes it is. It stands for "Advance Research Group ENTerprise", and it is a business name. Perfect... This will fit nicely with my game... (muhaha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 This makes me wish for a Villain Volume 4: Organizations. ARGENT Baston Alpha Security Black Tiger Society (from India) The Cable Card Shark Circle of the Scarlet Moon (expantion) CoIL (expantion?) Cult of the Red Banner Dark Druids (from England/Great Britain) DEMON (especially important, to advance group beyond 2012) Duchess Industries (while a legal part of VIPER, they should be there own entry) Hunter-Patriots (from Canada) ICON IHA (Minnutman robots and "Operation: Genocide") The New Purple Gain Ouroborus PSI (expantion?) RAVEN Terror Inc. ("official" version, agent stats for the organization after the death of there leader) VIPER (could build an Enemies book only on Dragon Branch members) Officially that is eight organizations to bedevil heroes (and we could even add more). Most of the book would be filled with DEMON and VIPER (and would be a good excuse to do a 6th edition stats for both), but would also be a good excuse to do the Profit And Purity book without actually doing it. EDIT: Updated this unofficial list. Now we have at least twenty groups with there agents and associate supervillians. I fully expect Card Shark and RAVEN to not be included. I just remember The New Purple Gain, but that group is so tied into Detroit/Millennium City that it is not funny. Which reminds me, all of these groups, by name, seem to be all World Conquer and Get Rich Quick types. IHA is the only one which seems to want to 'better mankind' (but does it in a way which is way creepy and would leave the population in ruins if they got there way). Perhaps we need CLOWN to lighten the supplement up some... (I'm not the writer of it, so I can't really say, but...) Also, what is keeping Ourbours from being confused with the supervillain arm of CoIL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 http://www.herogames.com/forums/topic/94419-news-from-high-rock-press/ 2018 Q2 [Track One] Champions Villains Four: Organizations will include brief chapters on such well-known groups as VIPER and DEMON, as well as a variety of new evil organizations contributed by the very best in Champions authors! I'm hoping ARGENT and the IHA will get some love in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 I'm wondering if there is enough groups offically to fill a VV4. (I can only name eight, two of them in the Dark Champions subworld, one offically shatered and dead; if it still exists it does so as a corpse bairly alive). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 You might have missed the "new evil organizations" part of the CV 4 announcement above. Although the current CU is actually doing pretty well on that front. Besides VIPER, DEMON, ARGENT and the IHA, we have the Circle of the Scarlet Moon (which was officially put in CV 2 as a "villain team," but I would argue is much more an "organization"); the Cult of the Red Banner (substantially detailed in Martial Enemies Vol. 2 -- and there are four other cults to the Dragon mentioned in The Mystic World); Bastion Alpha Security and ICON (both written up in Cops, Crews, And Cabals). Then there are the more regional groups, such as Canada's Hunter-Patriots (from Champions Of The North); Britain's Dark Druids (the followers of Cairngorm, from CV Vol. 3); India's Black Tiger Society, and the Pan-African Brotherhood (both described in relation to their supervillain members, in Champions Wordwide). EDIT: BTW one of those Draconic cults, Ouroboros, got a fair-sized write-up in The Ultimate Super Mage, and a fully-statted associated supervillain team in Digital Hero #4, so would be pretty easy to update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DShomshak Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 If Jason wanted me to write an updated Ouroboros, I'd be happy to do so, Though IIRC, King Cobra uses the name for his cadre, so there's potential for confusion. It might be better to change the cult's name. (Though Timothy Blank serves the Dragon in his own special way.) Dean Shomshak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 (Though Timothy Blank serves the Dragon in his own special way.) Dean Shomshak Yes...with ketchup and mustard and relish. What? Never herd of a serpent dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 If Jason wanted me to write an updated Ouroboros, I'd be happy to do so, Though IIRC, King Cobra uses the name for his cadre, so there's potential for confusion. It might be better to change the cult's name. (Though Timothy Blank serves the Dragon in his own special way.) Dean Shomshak Oh, I dunno. The CU already has a bunch of characters sharing the same name: two Thunderbolts, two Warmongers, two Eclipses, two Proteuses (Protei?)... Besides, KC's organization is called COIL, of which the Ouroboros is only a subset. The Ouroboros cult updated by its creator would definitely raise this book on my "must-by" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 We should spin this off...we return you to your favorite corporate criminal organization after these messages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Question: what does ARGENT think about Duchess Industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 While I found no specific references to Duchess Industries in relation to ARGENT, based on the description of DI in VIPER: Coils Of The Serpent, I imagine ARGENT view DI much like Advanced Concepts Industries, as their rival in sales of high-tech research and manufacturing. Although ARGENT frequently works with VIPER, I doubt they're aware of VIPER's "partnership" with DI, which is more valuable as a secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
name_tamer Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 If Jason wanted me to write an updated Ouroboros, I'd be happy to do so, Though IIRC, King Cobra uses the name for his cadre, so there's potential for confusion. It might be better to change the cult's name. Dean Shomshak Your version of Ouroboros is still officially part of the 6th edition CU, according to the Contacts for the Patriarch in CV2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted April 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2017 I apologize for the thread revival, but I happened to notice a brief mention of another ARGENT front company in one of my Champions books, which although not detailed implies a very interesting additional dimension to using ARGENT. In addition to this post I've added it to the "ARGENT Front Companies" list earlier on this thread. The Silverbrook Corporation: A respected research company and think-tank, Silverbrook is a major defense contractor covering a range of theoretical and applied sciences, from physics and biology to criminology and national security. Superhuman studies is a major subset of its research, which puts it in direct competition with other for-profit companies providing similar services, such as Angelstone Laboratories. But as an ARGENT front Silverbrook's superhuman research is mostly devoted to finding ways to defeat superheroes and assist supervillains. It's likely that villainous ARGENT clients would be able to contract consultation services in those areas. The Silverbrook Corporation is briefly mentioned in the context of Angelstone Laboratories in Cops, Crews, And Cabals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestionMan Posted August 4, 2017 Report Share Posted August 4, 2017 Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 20, 2021 Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 There is talks about an PDF version of Profit and Purity . So let's do some thread necromancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted July 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2021 Steve Long has mentioned that it's possible he might do a mini-book covering the Institute for Human Advancement at some point in the future; but he considers ARGENT to be a bigger project. You can see just from this thread that ARGENT is much more widespread and diverse than anything that's been suggested for the IHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steriaca Posted July 21, 2021 Report Share Posted July 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: Steve Long has mentioned that it's possible he might do a mini-book covering the Institute for Human Advancement at some point in the future; but he considers ARGENT to be a bigger project. You can see just from this thread that ARGENT is much more widespread and diverse than anything that's been suggested for the IHA. Quite true. Question is, who is brave enough to write ARGENT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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