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#141 Cassandra

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:59 PM

You'll need a bigger budget. :)

 

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Val Char Cost

60*/50 STR 48

15 DEX 15

25 CON 30

12 BODY 4

13 INT 3

10 EGO 0

20 PRE 10

18 COM 4

25*/20 PD 12

15*/10 ED 9

4 SPD 15

17*/15 REC 0

50 END 0

55*/50 STUN 0

Total Characteristics Cost: 150 Points

 

Cost Skills

3 Disguise 12-

5 Eidetic Memory

5 FB: International Police Powers

1 FB: Press Pass

4 Lang: Native English

0 Lang: Native Kryptonian

4 Navigation [Air/Space/Time] 12-

2 PS: Reporter 11-

3 Rep: Superhero 14-

3 Streetwise 13-

20 Universal Translator 12-

Total Skills Cost: 50 Points

 

Cost Powers

16* Damage Resistance 25 rPD 15 rED

50* Multipower (62 Points)

4* u) EB 10d6, Variable Special Effects [Heat Vision/Super Cold Breath] (+1/4), Variable Disadvantages (-1/4)

4* u) Entangle 5d6 DEF 5, Variable Special Effects [Bending Steel/Ice] (+1/4), Variable Disadvantages (-1/4)

5* u) Extra-Dimensional Movement [Any Location and Date in Time]

4* u) FTL Travel: 64 Million LY/Year [2 LY/Second], Cost END Only To Activate (-1/4)

2* u) Healing: Regeneration 3 BODY/Turn

4* u) Missile Deflection [All Ranged Attacks] +5, Adjacent, Variable Special Effects [Heat Vision/Invulnerability] (+1/4)

5* u) STR +40, No END (+1/2)

1* u) Transform: Instant Change [Any]

20* ES: Microscopic Sight 10x, N-Ray Sight [Lead], PER +1, Telescopic Hearing +2, Telescopic Sight +2, Ultrasonic Hearing

20* Flight 10", Variable Advantages (+1/2), [[Megascale [1km], Invisible [Hearing], 1/2 END, or Use Underwater Only (-1/4)]]

15* LS: High Pressure, High Radiation, Intense Cold, Intense Heat, Low Pressure/Vacuum, Self Contained

Total Powers Cost: 150 Points

 

*Does Not Work During Green Kryptonite or Red Solar Radiation Exposure (-1/4)

 

Total Cost: 350 Points

 

200+ Disadvantages

10 DNPC: Jimmy Olsen (Unaware Slightly Less Powerful) 8-

15 DNPC: Jonathan & Martha Kent (Normal) 8-

5 DNPC: Lois Lane (Slightly Less Powerful) 8-

10 Hunted: Brainiac (As Powerful) 8-

15 Hunted: Lex Luthor (As Powerful/NCI) 8-

5 PhyL: Undergoes Random Minor Mental Or Physical Changes Lasting Up To 24 Hours After Each New Exposure To Red Kryptonite (Infrequently/Slightly)

20 PsyL: Code Of The Hero (Very Common/Strong)

20 PsyL: Code Versus Killing (Common/Total)

10 SocL: Secret Identity [Kal-El/Clark Kent] (Occasionally/Major)

20 Suscept: Green Kryptonite, 3d6 STUN/Turn (Uncommon)

20 Vuln: Magic, 2x STUN (Common)

Total Disadvantages Cost: 330


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#142 Nothere

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 07:37 PM

And that would be why I ignored Silver age Superman. If you gave him a trillion points he'd be underpowered. Though I never knew about his weakness to thermoses.


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#143 mrinku

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:33 PM

The vulnerability to Magic has been handled very inconsistently, too. Even to the extent that a magic sword might kill him as easily as a mortal.

 

Time to call Captain Marvel, eh? :)


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#144 Hyper-Man

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:43 PM

The vulnerability to magic was originally a reaction to the ludicrous level power creep that occurred during the early Silver Age (Super sneezes blowing out suns!).  And the real kicker is that it wasn't originally a vulnerability to magic but rather a vulnerability to 5th dimensional Impish 'magic' which was and has always been reality manipulation that everyone including magical characters have been vulnerable to.  Example:  The most recent episode of the new animated series Justice League Action show the entire league affected by Mxy's 'magic' (including Zatanna).  Bad writing and editing over the years turned this into a vulnerability to Zatanna-level magic for lack of a better term.  They decided to ignore this in the JLA/Avengers crossover when they had Superman show the ability to Block (as in catch in his hand!) Thor's swing of his hammer.

 

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#145 Christopher R Taylor

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:03 PM

 

They decided to ignore this in the JLA/Avengers crossover when they had Superman show the ability to Block (as in catch in his hand!) Thor's swing of his hammer.

 

Well that was based on fan votes.  They asked fans to vote on who they thought would win each matchup, and wrote the winners based on that no matter what made sense.  Thor should have wiped the floor with Superman due to magic (although Superman's almost never-used super speed could have turned the tide) but the winner triumphed :)

 

Having superman vulnerable to magic actually is a nice twist, since it keeps him from being too mighty.  He's still really tough to it, just not as tough as against mundane stuff.  Sometimes.  Usually.  Depending on the story, time period, and writer.
 


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#146 Hyper-Man

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:10 PM

No fan voting was involved on that mini-series.  That was only for the previous 1 on 1 crossovers.  The decision on the Superman Thor matchup was made by Busiek, Marvel and DC management.

 

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#147 Christopher R Taylor

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:21 PM

Busiek must have decided that the hammer its self isn't magical in the sense of impact, but lightning and how it can't be lifted except by the worthy (which by most standards, Superman would qualify).  He's a pretty extensive comic book historian and analyst, he'd have thought that through.


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#148 mrinku

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:46 PM

There's also the possibility that Supes could do that because he's Worthy (Edit: Chris got that one in before me!) of wielding Mjolnir and the magic is actually working in his favour for once. Especially if Thor was having one of his less-than-worthy days :)

 

Was that the one where Cap and Bats squared off, did a ninja evaluation of each other and decided to talk it out, while all the reckless Avengers and Leaguers went at to hammer and tongs?

 

I've got the Titans/X-Men one somewhere, but have only had the Avengers/JLA one described to me.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:51 PM

There's also the possibility that Supes could do that because he's Worthy of wielding Mjolnir and the magic is actually working in his favour for once. Especially if Thor was having one of his less-than-worthy days :)

 

Was that the one where Cap and Bats squared off, did a ninja evaluation of each other and decided to talk it out, while all the reckless Avengers and Leaguers went at to hammer and tongs?

 

I've got the Titans/X-Men one somewhere, but have only had the Avengers/JLA one described to me.

 

Yes.

 

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#150 Hugh Neilson

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 08:20 AM

I suspect some of the Big matchups may have been negotiated before the companies agreed to the crossover. Supes is Flagship and has to win his battle. Cap can't beat Bats and Bats can't beat Cap. That's the deal, now write it that way, boys.
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#151 Christopher R Taylor

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:15 AM

Well in terms of personality it makes sense.  Batman would see an opponent he'd have a heck of a time beating, but who was clearly not interested in a fight, and Cap would by nature rather not attack someone unless he knows for sure they're bad guys.


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#152 Cassandra

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:25 PM

I made a slight adjustment to Silver Age Superman.


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