iamlibertarian Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 Example: Tiger and Sabertooth Tiger, Bestiary 440. Neither of them have a Grab maneuver, where they can grab a prey by the neck and not let go with their HKA teeth. Probably easy enough to just add a Grab to the Tigers abilities, but the rules (6E2 62) only mention a Squeeze, Slam, or Throw. What would best represent jaws which lock on and continue doing the bite damage each phase until the Grab (or whatever power) is broken? Thanks! DC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netzilla Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 You could do an HKA with the Continuous Advantage and the Must Follow Grab limitation. The condition that ends the HKA is, of course, breaking the grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantriped Posted September 12, 2017 Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 Nothing in the RAW prevents a Tiger from performing a normal Grab (which is a standard maneuver available to all), and following it with a Squeeze or Slam (which are sub-actions of the Grab Maneuver that deal STR-based Damage to the victim). I cannot find explicit rules support for it in CC/FHC, but I would probably allow the Tiger to perform the Squeeze action with their HA or HKA Bite (plus their strength) given the special effects involved. However, I'm pretty sure you can also just purchase Martial Grab as part of an "Tiger Style" Martial Art (perhaps with Martial Escape and Defensive Strike), and define Claws and Bite as its weapon elements. Thus explicitly allowing you to perform a Martial Grab using an HA or HKA Claw or Bite, and substitute your Strength with your HA/HKA (Which you may then add your STR back into because HA/HKA explicitly allows you to do so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamlibertarian Posted September 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2017 What got me thinking about this is a Multiform which includes a Sabertooth Tiger. I figure I might add on a 'belly rake' with double claws if the target is Grabbed from the front, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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