Limiting Prescence

[Gandalf970]

One of my players is playing a Troll who has a high PRE, but wants to use it for intimidation and bullying people.  I am having a hard time trying to figure out how to limit this characteristic.  How can it be limited for using skills such as conversation, charm and such (because he admittedly isn't good at these).  Is there a specific limit?  How would you see this character being limited in those situations. 

[archer]

The first thing that comes to mind is to not buy skills like conversation, charm, and such.

[steph]

  In my opinion the big presence of a troll is for make presence attack only .... A troll has nothing charming or nothing very tempting to want to converse with. So Charm or conversation or High Society does not work with his presence on the contrary.

 

Troll presence +15 (Only to make presence attack -1) real cost 8

 

Steph

 

 

[Grailknight]

Don't pigeonhole Striking Appearance as beauty, this is what it was made for. Buy several levels of Striking Appearance with the SFX of "Scary-looking Troll". This will give the appropriate pluses and minuses to the situation.

[Tom Cowan]

hmm, PRE also is the Def for PRE attacks 

Don't mess with the troll, PRE +10 (not useful for conversation, charm and such skills -1/4) real cost 7

Still get most of the use of the PRE. maybe -1/2 if you are running high society campaign

[mallet]

Would also depend on who he is interacting with.

Being a big, powerful troll might be a good thing when trying to Charm a lady Troll or have a Conversation with another troll or a goblin or Orc or a dragon. So I say keep it as is, and take a complication or other "limitation" so that it is not as effective with those skills vs Humans and other "delicate" species. 

[Gandalf970]

Thanks archer, steph, Grailknight, Tom Cowan and mallet.  All of you make great points to add to what my troll player wants.  I sure do love this forum for all of your help.

[Ninja-Bear]

Don’t be afraid to choose a method and if that doesn’t work the way you think it should to change it. I feel that too much emphasis is on getting it “right” and “official” instead of using what works for YOU! Of course nothing is wrong with asking advice. 

[Gandalf970]

Thanks Ninja-Bear!  I appreciate the advice and I want to get it right so the players understand it and it makes sense to all of us.  Asking on this forum helps so much as I am new to HERO and I receive so much great advice.

[bluesguy]

Ditto on @Ninja-Bear advice.  I have been running/playing Hero for a long time.  There times I will have to come back to the player or players and say "Well that little experiment with X (power, characteristic, etc) isn't working out that well.  I am going to tweak thing this way."  90% of the time everyone is in agreement.

[Gandalf970]

Bluesguy thanks!  I have been playing games for 40+ years and have always played it that way.  After the game if it didn’t work we would discuss it!  Glad to hear that others do the same!