HeroGM Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Avengers by Perez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicarius Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, JmOz said: Perez on Cap, trying to get the ugly gone , ohh the Avengers as well I'm trying to look at the difference in Cap but my eyes keep Wandaring. Lawnmower Boy, rjd59 and massey 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Sicarius said: I'm trying to look at the difference in Cap but my eyes keep Wandaring. Wundarr isn't even in that picture! < humming his "Age of Aquarius" theme song > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 We have buried Liefield....YAH 2020 ends on a good note... Duke Bushido and massey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicarius Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, archer said: Wundarr isn't even in that picture! < humming his "Age of Aquarius" theme song > Use your Vision! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Honestly never liked that costume on her (or Justice), but loved Firestorm's and Quicksilvers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Liefield did an image in Wizard magazine of Spitfire and Union Jack for his failed run on Heroes Reborn Captain America. I LIKED it, swiped it for two generational heroes in a game. Christopher R Taylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 This is the image I was talking about. Wizard has it credited to liefield though he claims it's not his. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Bushido Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Gotta be his. They arent standing on the same plane. And ahe cant posaibly have intestines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Duke Bushido said: Gotta be his. They arent standing on the same plane. And ahe cant posaibly have intestines. Lady Blue from CNM can't possibly have a spinal column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I like the costume design too, sometimes Liefeld had good costume concepts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Looks like a couple of generic artists from the time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicarius Posted January 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 hours ago, HeroGM said: Lady Blue from CNM can't possibly have a spinal column. Marylin Manson perhaps? Bit more than the ribs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 See, no spine. Or ribs maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 hours ago, HeroGM said: See, no spine. Or ribs maybe She's a known mutant. Maybe that's her Distinctive Features. Christopher R Taylor and massey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starblaze Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 On 12/16/2020 at 4:17 PM, Sicarius said: Awesome! Thank you and everyone for the thoughts and suggestions. If Capt Marvel is not a multiform then I guess the same would be true of the Hulk. That means I have no idea why a werewolf would be a multiform. --Just checked out Sam Bell's writes up on a few characters. Don't want to mess with these guys! Multiform assumes that you are playing two totally different characters with a different personalities. Typically a werewolf has a different personality than the human it transforms from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Multiform assumes nothing. The players and GM make the assumptions. Beast Boy/Changeling is the poster child of Multiform. Every form he takes has the same personality; Gar Logan's. Ninja-Bear, massey and Hugh Neilson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Greywind said: Multiform assumes nothing. The players and GM make the assumptions. Beast Boy/Changeling is the poster child of Multiform. Every form he takes has the same personality; Gar Logan's. And way too expensive the way Hero is designed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Yeah the key is a totally different form, not personality. Its a way of handling certain builds, but like Hero always is, its just one of many possible ways. Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroGM Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Yeah the key is a totally different form, not personality. Its a way of handling certain builds, but like Hero always is, its just one of many possible ways. That's the main reason I brought the Villain books. See how the builds were. Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicarius Posted January 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Obviously there is very little agreement on this. But multi form instead of multi personalities might be a clue????? Beast boy does not change personality but the Hulk sure does. Harlequin (spelled wrong I'm sure) has multiple personalities but the same form. Some beings have different identities with different skill sets and memories but have the same form. Guess I'll have to really read over it as well as some 'official' characters built with multiform. But I would think Dr Don Blake vs Thor is a multiform. Certainly they sport different hairstyles, bodies, voice, height, parents, abilities, yada yada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, HeroGM said: That's the main reason I brought the Villain books. See how the builds were. Me too! And I always enjoyed the the characters that broke the rules because the concept sometimes requires it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywind Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Sicarius said: But I would think Dr Don Blake vs Thor is a multiform. Certainly they sport different hairstyles, bodies, voice, height, parents, abilities, yada yada. Only in Alternate Hero/Villain ID. Thor knows nothing about medicine and surgery, but Don Blake does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 I think you could go either way with Thor, although as pointed out Thor is no doctor and so he's obviously losing access to certain skills and knowledge (as is Blake). Captain Mar-Vell is the classic multiform: one person becomes someone else completely. But you could technically buy that as HFO if you wanted to keep it simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 1:32 AM, HeroGM said: This is the image I was talking about. Wizard has it credited to liefield though he claims it's not his. Go figure. That doesn't look like Liefeld to me. Maybe someone else in Extreme Studios from the time, but Liefeld's characters would be slightly more exaggerated. It kind of looks like Ian Churchill or someone inked by Art Thibert. 6 hours ago, HeroGM said: And way too expensive the way Hero is designed. Beast Boy's shapeshift? VPP defined as shapeshifting and limited to Multiforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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