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In worlds with only super-skills and gadgets and no real superpowers, would a prison in a Dark Champions universe be much different than the real world?

 

Is there any information on Dark Champions prisons other than what is in the Hudson City sourcebook?

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1 hour ago, Steve said:

In worlds with only super-skills and gadgets and no real superpowers, would a prison in a Dark Champions universe be much different than the real world?

 

Going on strictly a hunch, because of my answer below, I would expect to find a heavier reliance on mechanical locking mechanisms and electronic mechanisms reduced to key prisoners-can't-get-here locations, at these points I would expect electronics to be limited to guard biometrics as opposed to keypads, etc.  Even then, I expect mechanical devices sealing these away.  The reasoning is quite simply that a heavy reliance on electronics seems like a bad, bad thing given the typical super-character with a gadget schtick.

 

I also see any prisoner labor limited to shovels or other large hand tools, with no possible access to more delicate tools or any sort of gadget fodder.  And of course, an increase in real human guards, these being neither mechanical or electronic.  Possibly "you don't know this but" type tranquilizer gas nozzles mixed in with the sprinkler nozzles, just in case.

 

 

1 hour ago, Steve said:

 

Is there any information on Dark Champions prisons other than what is in the Hudson City sourcebook?

 

 

Not that I have run across; no.  LL will probably provide ten examples of which I am currently unaware.  :lol:

 

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Sorry: I also meant to include: beds either being foam (no inner spring) mattresses directly on the floor, or on solid steel (not sheet metal) frames with solid steel platforms-- no finding little bits of wire or spring here.  :lol:

 

paper plates and water-soluble fiber flatware that dissolves within twenty minutes or so of first touching food or other moisture. No bone-in chicken or fish, either.

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When you have people who are capable of being so stealthy that they can get past any observer and avoid any security system they will need to deal with that.   Super Stealth is probably the most common “Super Skill”, followed closely by lock picking and security system.   In a world full of Harry Houdini’s the prisons are going to be a lot different than ours.  

 

What about people so skilled at manipulating people that it is written up as mind control?   Letting that person interact with the guards is asking for trouble.  

What it really comes down to is how good these super skills are?  If they are written up as just extremely high skill roll, then the prisons will probably not be all that different.  If they are written up as powers the prisons will need to be a lot tougher.  
 

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As I read it this really comes down to the flavor of the DC world you want.

Arkham Asylum seems to be moderately able to keep the various super-villians incarcerated.  They parole board just keeps letting them out.  On the other hand, when it's really important Joker can find a way and Batman seems to be able to get in and out whenever he needs too.  So I think the individual cells are a bit tighter but are in no way "super skill" proof.

 

On the other hand, in the MCU Ivan Vanko could build Stark Level tech and hack Hammer software like it didn't have a password and apparently had a lot of history in much worse prisons than he was currently in, but the implication was that the only reason he got out of prison was because Justin Hammer broke him out.

I think it is a genre choice.  Can a prison hold Lex Luthor/The Joker/the Punisher/other people without super powers but who DO have superskills? It seems like the default in most super-skill worlds is that there are ways of keeping super-skill characters in prison, but it seems to be in Genre for Batman to be able to break in whenever he needs to talk to Riddler.  If anything, it seems more common for bad guys to to take over the prison than to leave it.

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I always felt that Super Skills bought with Powers should have a -0 limitation: skill. To represent that even though they are bought with Powers they are still only skills. Sorta how by default Martial Maneuvers even with a high enough Dice can’t break certain things-say a bank vault.

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On 1/28/2021 at 8:22 PM, Duke Bushido said:

And of course, an increase in real human guards, these being neither mechanical or electronic.  Possibly "you don't know this but" type tranquilizer gas nozzles mixed in with the sprinkler nozzles, just in case.

How much money would you have to pay someone to be a guard in the prison where Deadshot is held captive?

 

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I think it should be the "more common super-max" idea. The idea that it's basically our world slightly skewed, right?

 

I suppose that tech is higher, though....

 

I guess for me it would depend on whether tech is incorporated into society, meaning is 2021 Hudson City more futuristic than 2021 real-world NYC? If it is, and if society is generally more futuristic, then the prisons should be outfitted accordingly. If the gadgetry and tech is limited to a small elite group of heroes, villains, and secret agencies, then I would just go with more super-maxes, yeah.

 

On 1/29/2021 at 6:27 AM, Tjack said:

Maximum security prisons would look at lot more like super-max ones.  Or just getting sentenced to super-max would be much more common.

 

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I'd think you'd get a lot more of "actual guards watching locked doors and watching other guards" than relying on video surveillance and unmonitored locked doors.

 

Guard 1 watches Guard 2 who watches Guard 3 who watches Guard 4 who watches Guard 1. An intruder would have to take them all out simultaneously or someone is going to raise the alarm.

 

Or Guard 1 is tasked with watching the length of the north wall. Guard 2 from a distance watches Guard 1. Guard 3 watches Guard 2 from another position.

 

You might also see some brute force aspects to building at least some of the cells. A door that must be lifted a bit before it swings out but it's too heavy for a single person to lift and move, etc.

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On 4/28/2021 at 5:03 PM, archer said:

I'd think you'd get a lot more of "actual guards watching locked doors and watching other guards" than relying on video surveillance and unmonitored locked doors.

 

Guard 1 watches Guard 2 who watches Guard 3 who watches Guard 4 who watches Guard 1. An intruder would have to take them all out simultaneously or someone is going to raise the alarm.

 

Or Guard 1 is tasked with watching the length of the north wall. Guard 2 from a distance watches Guard 1. Guard 3 watches Guard 2 from another position.

 

You might also see some brute force aspects to building at least some of the cells. A door that must be lifted a bit before it swings out but it's too heavy for a single person to lift and move, etc.

 

OMG! Holy Grail predicted this. Forget The Simpsons, Monty Python is the precognitive authority! :D

 

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