Tech Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 I've always wondered why the Martial Arts Escape maneuver has a +0 OCV +0 DCV to it. It seems to me to be an automatic success to hit, regardless of Hero Games not having absolutes, hence my wondering about the +0 OCV. Now, whether you break out of the Grab is another thing. You're not going to use this maneuver unless you're Grabbed and if you're already Grabbed, why a DCV modifier? So, looking for some clarity to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Firstly because it’s built using the martial art maneuvers rules. Hence it starts with 0 OCV and O DCV. You can buy extra DCV as the sample maneuver, Mongoose Escape has. Since your DCV is halved when grabbed, it may not seem like much benefit against Crushes but it still has some. Mainly the extra DCV is useful once you break out of an Grab as it kicks in that phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Don’t forget that a maneuvers modifiers last until your next action. So with a martial escape you don’t take any penalty on your DCV if you escape. Looking at Reversal it gives a -1 OCV and -2DCV that means that after you use reversal to get out of the hold you take a -2 DCV until your next action. With Martial Escape there is no bonus or penalty to either DCV or OCV. Ninja-Bear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja-Bear Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 Now for the OCV component, I have considered for a specialized martial arts game to make a player make a to-hit roll for Escape maneuver. (I would allow a failed roll to still let you use your natural strength). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech Posted September 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 This makes sense. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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