Wizards of the Coast Announces One D&D

[Old Man]

WotC: A Working Conversation About the Open Game License (OGL)

 

Good: Actually soliciting customer feedback and doing away with some of the bad aspects of the leaked OGL1.1

Bad: No mention of not trying to revoke OGL1.0a

[Scott Ruggels]

Trust has been broken, I think this is too late, but people will pay attention.

[Old Man]

Fan response is still negative, mainly because this is a warmed-over version of last week's announcement.  Nothing of substance has changed.

[Cygnia]

[dmjalund]

7 minutes ago, Cygnia said:

don't worry. He'll miss

[Scott Ruggels]

He takes WoTC’s new “Apology” apart piece by piece and provides new info.   Remember surveys are to syphon off feedback and bury it so it doesn’t end up on Teddit or YouTube.  Tune in tomorrow. 

[Khymeria]

Unless they change 1.0a to simply read irrevocable the conversation with serious 3rd party creators is over. Unless they change the language so they can’t take your work (and somehow say they never thought of that) that conversation is over. Unless they remove language that they can change new OGL at any time with 30 days notice the conversation is over. 

[Cygnia]

Meanwhile, more leaks...

 

[Old Man]

“Armchair gamers”? How is that different from, like, …gamers?  Is there some kind of hardcore crossfit gaming I’m unaware of?

[Steve]

43 minutes ago, Old Man said:

“Armchair gamers”? How is that different from, like, …gamers?  Is there some kind of hardcore crossfit gaming I’m unaware of?

I've seen some people at conventions get quite physical at the gaming table. Even rolling dice while standing up and acting like they're at a Las Vegas craps table when they roll well.

[Cygnia]

I've pulled muscles sneezing -- one day, it'll happen when I roll dice.

[Scott Ruggels]

1 hour ago, Cygnia said:

Meanwhile, more leaks...

 

 

As was said, the only reason for Surveys is to put the "conversation" someplace that isn't public, and bury it, rather than let it out into the public via Reddit, and YouTube.

[Khymeria]

4 hours ago, Scott Ruggels said:

 

As was said, the only reason for Surveys is to put the "conversation" someplace that isn't public, and bury it, rather than let it out into the public via Reddit, and YouTube.

 

I’ve heard some of this dismissive rhetoric of feedback given by the peasantry firsthand before. The surveys have always just been rage siphons and that’s why credits in some of the books include “thanks to legion of fans” and stopped listing all the actual playtesters. 

[Ragitsu]

A corporate apology? I'd rather be struck across the face with a trout: such a gesture is honest, at least.

[Ninja-Bear]

10 hours ago, Old Man said:

“Armchair gamers”? How is that different from, like, …gamers?  Is there some kind of hardcore crossfit gaming I’m unaware of?

Didn’t Hero start that with the Core Books? You kig them around? 😁

[Cygnia]

[BarretWallace]

15 hours ago, Cygnia said:

I've pulled muscles sneezing -- one day, it'll happen when I roll dice.

As a Minnesotan, I approve this message!

[Scott Ruggels]

So this dropped today, and it's apparently an announcement for OGL 1.2  It appears that WoTC has backed down, on some items and have moved the 5e mechanics to  Creative Commons, but which version the announcement does not say. I am not one that can provide any sort of legal analysis, but  it appears to be less of grab than before, but I could be wrong.

 

Announcement.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1432-starting-the-ogl-playtest

 

PDF of the New OGL:
https://www.dndbeyond.com/attachments/39j2li89/OGL1.2_DraftForDiscussionPurpose.pdf

 

Take a look and see if this will stem the tide of people becoming new Pathfinder players.

[Old Man]

Episode 1.2 of the OGL Saga: The OGL "Playtest"

 

In which WotC retains the right to kick people out of the OGL, terminate the OGL, or impose royalties whenever they want.  While they continue to try to revoke OGL 1.0a. 

 

They do, however, cherry pick the uncopyrightable core mechanics and "release" them under a Creative Commons license, so there's that.

[Opal]

Paizo continues to position itself and it's Pathfinder D&D clone as the plucky Rebelion to Hasbro's Evil Empire:

 

 https://paizo.com/community/blog/v5748dyo6si7y?The-ORC-Alliance-Grows

[dmjalund]

WOTC: I am your father

Paizo: That's Impossible!

[Scott Ruggels]

1 minute recap. 

 

Response to the new OGL by D&D Shorts. 

 

 

[Opal]

Its not $30, it's 19.99 for the first year!

 

[Duke Bushido]

On 1/18/2023 at 6:32 PM, Old Man said:

“Armchair gamers”? How is that different from, like, …gamers?  Is there some kind of hardcore crossfit gaming I’m unaware of?

 

 

LARP.

 

Those are the crossfit gamers.

 

Lots of these videos are no longer available

 

So...   Google involvement, or a buttload of C and D orders flying about?

 

 

[Cygnia]

Roll20, Deadlands and Numenera RPG makers join Pathfinder studio’s open game licence as D&D OGL rival gathers momentum