Mark Rand Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Would Marvel Comics' Avengers, possible with branch teams, fit into the Champions Universe? They might operate in conjunction with either PRIMUS or UNTIL instead of SHIELD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Teriaca Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, Mark Rand said: Would Marvel Comics' Avengers, possible with branch teams, fit into the Champions Universe? They might operate in conjunction with either PRIMUS or UNTIL instead of SHIELD. If you want them to, heck yes. Remember IT'S YOUR CAMPAINE! (Sorry for the shout. But people sometimes has to be reminded that they are in control of who is in use in the world beyond the player characters and there hunteds). Hermit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 26 Author Report Share Posted June 26 47 minutes ago, Stanley Teriaca said: If you want them to, heck yes. Remember IT'S YOUR CAMPAINE! (Sorry for the shout. But people sometimes has to be reminded that they are in control of who is in use in the world beyond the player characters and there hunteds). I know. I'm just wondering what the other members here think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 I don't think they blend well with the Champions Universe, but if you want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 26 Author Report Share Posted June 26 I had the idea that they were based in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, not New York City and Tony Stark's main plant was in a Pittsburgh suburb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 No way Tony Stark goes out to party in downtown Pittsburgh Lawnmower Boy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 26 Author Report Share Posted June 26 17 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: No way Tony Stark goes out to party in downtown Pittsburgh True, but he might party at Strip District, Oakland, or East Carson Street bars and nightclubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 The Champions Universe was patterned after those of the Big Two comics companies. In many cases it has individuals and groups analogous to those from those worlds. Virtually all the character conventions behind the Avengers' members exist in the CU. So there'd be no real problem grafting them onto Hero's super setting. Thing is, the Avengers wouldn't be the big shots in the CU that they are in the MU. The former has many more superhero teams, across America and around the world. Some of them have canonically existed for decades. Boll Weevil, LoneWolf and Christopher R Taylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Even in the Marvel Universe the Avengers aren't the top tier. The Defenders had the Silver Surfer, Dr Strange, Hulk, and Namor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Teriaca Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 5 minutes ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Even in the Marvel Universe the Avengers aren't the top tier. The Defenders had the Silver Surfer, Dr Strange, Hulk, and Namor. I agree, but...very few people have herd of The Defenders while EVERYONE has herd of the Avengers. And I'm talking in universe. Matt the Bruins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 26 Author Report Share Posted June 26 57 minutes ago, Lord Liaden said: The Champions Universe was patterned after those of the Big Two comics companies. In many cases it has individuals and groups analogous to those from those worlds. Virtually all the character conventions behind the Avengers' members exist in the CU. So there'd be no real problem grafting them onto Hero's super setting. Thing is, the Avengers wouldn't be the big shots in the CU that they are in the MU. The former has many more superhero teams, across America and around the world. Some of them have canonically existed for decades. So, they're a Southwestern Pennsylvania-based team. They have a DOSPA liaison and, sometimes work with Emily Wells, Pittsburgh’s resident PRIMUS Intelligence Agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Even in the Marvel Universe the Avengers aren't the top tier. The Defenders had the Silver Surfer, Dr Strange, Hulk, and Namor. That lineup of Defenders had tremendous power. But they were a group of individuals, who usually fought that way. The Avengers are a team. They train together, maximizing their collective strengths. Their lineup often includes Captain America, the best tactical and inspirational leader in the world; Iron Man, who is to technology what Dr. Strange is to sorcery; and Thor, arguably Marvel's mightiest hero. They also usually have more members than the Defenders, and when you add in the likes of Scarlet Witch, Vision, Quicksilver, Hercules, the various incarnations of Hank Pym, or the vast number of diverse other heroes who have been Avengers over the years, they take second place to no one in the MU. Edited June 26 by Lord Liaden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 Yeah in the MCU the Defenders are street level dudes like Iron Fist, so there's no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Teriaca Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, Christopher R Taylor said: Yeah in the MCU the Defenders are street level dudes like Iron Fist, so there's no comparison. I wasn't talking about the MCU but the MU. The comics themselves. Remember that the Defenders billed themselves as the "anti-team". It is even more funny in the fanfiction story Defending (a spinoff of the Ranma 1/2 characters as Marvel Comic Characters fanfiction Avenging). Each time Hellcat (Kagomi from InuYasha) suggests to Dr. Strange (HiKira Gosenkugi from Ranma 1/2) a team name, he rejects it, stating that they are not a team. (The cast of Defending, and who they might be maybe... Dr. Strange/Hikira Gosenkugi, Hellcat/Kagomi Son of Satan/InuYasha Devil Slayer/Moroku Hulk/Ryoga Hibiki The Incredable Bwee/"P-chan" The Sub-Marraner/Nadia Captain OnI (a composite character of Captain Marvel and Silver Surfer, maybe)/Lum Invader) Edited June 27 by Stanley Teriaca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 27 Author Report Share Posted June 27 While Tony Stark/Iron Man has quarters there, he's a reservist because he's often away on business. Bonnie Knight, Ph.D., is the base's electronics expert. Edwin Jarvis is the mansion's butler. He shares his duties with the housekeeper, his wife, Sylvia. She's the better cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 3 hours ago, Mark Rand said: While Tony Stark/Iron Man has quarters there, he's a reservist because he's often away on business. Depends on which era of Avengers you refer to. Iron Man has been Avengers chairman in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher R Taylor Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 Yeah when you talk about the Avengers it could be Hulk, Cap, Iron Man, The Wasp, and Ant Man... or it could be Dr Druid, Starfox, Swordsman, D-Man, and Silverclaw. Just about every character in the Marvel Universe has been an Avenger at some time or another. Most of the lineups really sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haerandir Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 I dunno, Pittsburgh/West PA is pretty far west. If you're going to include the branch teams, they seem to all cover fairly broad regions. There'd be a risk of territorial overlap with the Great Lakes Avengers. And the Champions. I would probably leave them in New York. Failing that, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, DC, Atlanta and Miami would all probably work more-or-less as well as Pittsburgh. Miami in particular might fit the Tony Stark billionaire-playboy mode quite well. If you want to include the Defenders, and also not have them in New York, then Dr. Strange seems well-suited to Boston/eastern Mass. Proximity to Salem, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 27 Author Report Share Posted June 27 11 minutes ago, Haerandir said: I dunno, Pittsburgh/West PA is pretty far west. If you're going to include the branch teams, they seem to all cover fairly broad regions. There'd be a risk of territorial overlap with the Great Lakes Avengers. And the Champions. I would probably leave them in New York. Failing that, Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, DC, Atlanta and Miami would all probably work more-or-less as well as Pittsburgh. Miami in particular might fit the Tony Stark billionaire-playboy mode quite well. If you want to include the Defenders, and also not have them in New York, then Dr. Strange seems well-suited to Boston/eastern Mass. Proximity to Salem, etc. I chose Pittsburgh because that's where I live. Maybe the Three Rivers Avengers cover Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Maryland, and Ohio. If so, the region the Great Lakes Avengers cover starts in Indiana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 27 Author Report Share Posted June 27 Adam Green is Avengers Mansion’s security chief. Serena Green, Adam’s wife, is Avengers Mansion’s computer expert. When the heroes are on a case, she works out of the communications room. Bethany Jackson and Rebecca Craig, both former USAF fighter pilots, are the Quinjet pilots. Bethany is also a skilled airframe and powerplant mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haerandir Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 That makes sense. I was thinking in terms of 3 Avengers teams covering the majority of North America. If you're looking at a more regional/Avengers Initiative model Pittsburgh is a city deserving of a super team, in terms of both population and prominence. And you wouldn't be tripping over the Sentinels or whoever every time you went out crime fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchpad Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 Maybe something like the Avengers Initiative may work better. In that program, the Liberteens were assigned to PA as their "official Avengers" team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 28 Author Report Share Posted June 28 We could leave Tony Stark's company where it is and say that he doesn't have an apartment/office/workshop in Pittsburgh's Avengers Mansion. There could even be two floors of bedrooms instead of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Rand Posted June 28 Author Report Share Posted June 28 I think now that Maryland should be handled by the Washington, D.C.-based team, which also covers Virginia. The New York City-based team would also cover New Jersey and Delaware. The Boston-based team would cover New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrewySquirrel Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) The champions universe is basically Bronze Age Marvel with the serial numbers filed off, so yeah, any Marvel character slots in very well Edited June 28 by ScrewySquirrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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