Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Okay, Mechanon is a homage to Ultron. Dr. Destroyer started out very much like Doom. Istvatha is very different from Darkseid herself, but her resources are similar. Nighthawk is similar to Batman, and Defender, being in powered armor, can't escape Iron Man's shadow... Ravenswood seems to borrow a lot from a certain bald guy's school. And you know what, that's okay. It's even cool if I may geek for a moment. So, who would you WANT to see a homage to in the newest edition of the Champions Universe? One that (as far as you know) doesn't exist ...yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supreme Serpent Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Is there a Green Lantern Corps equivalent yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levi Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 This may not be exactly on topic, but I would like to see AVAR 7 redone to be Vision-like. An android created by Mechanon as his perfect "son" who betrays him and joins his emenies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Supreme Serpent Is there a Green Lantern Corps equivalent yet? I think the Star*guard that appeared in DH is supposed to be similar, with staves instead of rings, but I don't have that issue so I only know by second hand postings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Actually, I always thought that Istvatha V'han was a simultaneous homage to both Kang the Conqueror and Empress Lilandra of the Shi'ar. The Darkseid homage would most likely be Tyrannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Linear Men, the old Manhunter from the Silver Age, Triune Understanding, Top 10, Shadowcat (but, you know, make her a lot less lame), lots of heroes revealing their secret IDs like it seems they are doing at Marvel now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 *rabid Classic Kitty Pryde defender mode -- enable* Kitty may be lame /now/, God knows, but I remember her glory days. (Circa 1984-1987, to be precise). God, what a girl. I'll never get either the limited series *or* X-MEN ANNUAL #9 out of my head until the day I die. *sigh* Those were the good old days... *mode off* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think everyone needs a Superman. We are also missing some god-heroes (Thor, Hercules, etc). I know there are two of them in India, but that doesn't help us in the US. As far as villain homages, I would like to see Gorilla Grodd, some Atlantean villains from both Marvel and DC, and Juggernaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Hermit I think the Star*guard that appeared in DH is supposed to be similar, with staves instead of rings, but I don't have that issue so I only know by second hand postings. They are the GLC in ideology but not in powers, but they are the GLC homage by intent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted January 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I think Sai of Millennium City might be a Shadowcat homage. True, she teleports instead of phases, but... it's possible to play her in similar vein (Of course, we don't have an official sheet on her yet) Oh, and Levi, I like your homage to the Vision while bringing back AVAR 7 move. Seems a good way to kill two birds with one stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by levi This may not be exactly on topic, but I would like to see AVAR 7 redone to be Vision-like. An android created by Mechanon as his perfect "son" who betrays him and joins his emenies. I think that would be a much better idea for a player's character. I wish some of my players would think up things like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I /did/ think of that once, actually -- but the DM didn't approve it. IIRC, he grumbled something about 'Mechanon wouldn't ever build an AI that went rogue on him' and demanded I play something else. That game didn't last very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Magnus Robot Fighter and Gilad Ani Padda (The Eternal Warrior) of Valiant Comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Shang-Chi. (OK, so WOTD had Lin Hu, but while the basic concept was OK, I thought the execution could use a severe debugging.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I also have fond memories of Enchantress and Executioner. I wouldn't mind seeing them pop up some where in the CU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Shrike Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 On the subject, the H.A.R.D. Corps concept could be done cooly in HEROs. And X.O. Manowar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farik Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 An elemental based team of adventurers ala Fantastic Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 That was the Fabulous Five, led by... what was it, Mr. Amazing? *wonders where the hell he put that book, it was just here yesterday* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I'm also using the Factor Four from Freedom City as villains in my CU game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 God almighty, Freedom City is outstanding. Officially licensed HERO conversion, /please/. (The M&M rules engine... it's weird. I can crunch Hero System in my head. I munch most D20 games like popcorn. GURPS is as much a native language to me as English. Tri-Stat, I can do in my sleep. Even /Palladium/ made sense... mostly. The only rules engine that has ever kicked my butt is Chart... I mean, Rolemaster. /And/ Mutants & Masterminds. It's supposed to be so simple, and yet I just can't get it at all. I have no idea why, but I just can't. But I'd really, really love to spend some time in that world... and it so loudly begs for an official Champions conversion...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Seeman Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 POWER PACK!!! POWER PACK!!! C'mon, y'all know you want to see it, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 I'll vote for Power Pack right after I vote for Black Lightnin and Brother Power the Geek. You know what they probably will put in, but shouldn't? The New Warriors (aren't they all new warriors?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 How about Aquaman? The biggest loser in the JLA until he got rebooted. He's pretty cool now. I'd also like them to try a multi-generational origin for a Hawkman, but, you know, make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Power Pack really only works for a very light-hearted game. The idea of pre-teens being allowed to fight supervillains with the rest of the hero community not calling Mom & Dad kinda goes against the 'default' tone of Champions, aka 'We're mostly taking this seriously'. For that matter, even teen superheroes aren't encouraged by the general hero community in the Champions U, as witness Ravenswood Academy's policy on extra-curricular activities... The Champions U hero-community-at-large seems to take the quite reasonable position that if you want to volunteer for a job involving combat duties and deadly danger, you should be a legal adult. Note -- I /liked/ Power Pack. i just don't want their homage to be /here/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckg Posted January 22, 2004 Report Share Posted January 22, 2004 Originally posted by Bengal How about Aquaman? The biggest loser in the JLA until he got rebooted. He's pretty cool now. I'd also like them to try a multi-generational origin for a Hawkman, but, you know, make it work. Black Mask doesn't count? And the CU already has an Atlantis, complete with royalty... although if you wanted your own Aquaman homage, by all means, give Queen Mara a long-lost son and then some old age... (The 4e Atlantis sourcebook -- well, the Prince and Princess seemed to be more /parodies/ of Namor and Namorita, not homages...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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