nexus Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 1. Yes 2 Yes, but there issome big variation 3. No, but I use characters, organizations, etc from the official Champs U liberally. 4. No, my setting is entirely homegrown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyWKramer Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? 2.5 - I use the general setting, but with some major variations, but I homebrew a lot of things, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? We have our own Legacy Universe campaign based on an amalgam of the Marvel and DC universe. I do enjoy reading CU material because of the number of homage characters and ideas. I think my GM will steal some ideas from Hudson City as inspiration for Gotham City, where my character, Midknight, is from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I do use the official Champions Universe with three very signifigant changes, and a host of other smaller changes. 1 - The event that triggered the rise of superhumans was the crash landing of an alien starship powered by a quantum flux engine. This crash occured in the Tunguska region of the Soviet Union in 1908. The vast majority of mutants still come from the northeastern hemisphere, and the first Western superheroes were "mystery men" who developed "strange powers" while travelling in the East. I made this change because the official story was, no offense to anyone involved, stupid. 2 - The event referred to as "The Battle of Detroit" is now referred to as "The Battle In Seattle", as it happened in Seattle, not Detroit. When reconstructed, the new city was called Jet City, not Millenium City. The automated cars have also been replaced with a giant mag-lev airport that launches airplanes into the sky. I made the first change because I live in Seattle, and don't know jack about Detroit. I made the second change because Seattle is famous for Boeing and our jets, whereas Detroit is famous for the Big Three and their cars. 3 - The Champions are the premier superteam of Jet City (and the world, since Dr. Destroyer killed most of the premiere heroes in the BiS), but their membership consists of Rocketman II, Nebula, Aresenal, Blink Dog, the Fremont Troll, Washi, and Champion Girl. Defender and friends do not exist, unless I choose to retcon them into existence at some later point. There's some other, minor, alterations: 1 - The "gods of myth" were, for the most part, a race of aliens who call themselves the Commisee Va. They are originally from Mars, so technically they are Martians. The title means "Surviving Ones" and refers to their status as the last remaining survivors of the war that destroyed Mars. They are immortal. They still live on the dark side of the moon. They are basically the Inhumans with a bit of a Martian Manhunter influence. They do not participate in human affairs as a general rule, but players can choose to play them. 2 - DEMON was formed from the remains of the Thule Society, a cabal of evil sorcerors who backed the Third Reich. VIPER also formed from remains of the Nazi SS, and most of the topmost tier of VIPER leadership is (very old) Nazis. 3 - PRIMUS barely exists as an agency, and has shut down operations almost everywhere. It's destined for total phase-out by 2008, to be completely replaced by UNTIL. There's only room for one SHIELD in my world, and UNTIL is way more SHIELD-like than PRIMUS. I'd go on, but I'm sure you're bored by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? The campaign I'm currently writing for fun also involves Tunguska (don't they all?). In 1908 the meteor which hit Tunguska sent radioactive particles into the atmosphere. The particles were later super-charged when the Earth passed through the tail of Halley's Comet in 1910. This led to mutations in many of the births which took place thereafter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackalope Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? The campaign I'm currently writing for fun also involves Tunguska (don't they all?). In 1908 the meteor which hit Tunguska sent radioactive particles into the atmosphere. The particles were later super-charged when the Earth passed through the tail of Halley's Comet in 1910. This led to mutations in many of the births which took place thereafter. I read an article about Ultimate Nightmare (which was about to be released at the time, and involves Tunguskga) the day I sat down to write the time-line, and I find Tunguska fascinating. Very weird. That's why it ended up in there. Of course, i went with the more conspiratorial/alien fanatic explanation of "It was a spaceship!" rather than the more probable comet/meteroite theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellS Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I read an article about Ultimate Nightmare (which was about to be released at the time' date=' and involves Tunguskga) the day I sat down to write the time-line, and I find Tunguska fascinating. Very weird. That's why it ended up in there. Of course, i went with the more conspiratorial/alien fanatic explanation of "It was a spaceship!" rather than the more probable comet/meteroite theory.[/quote'] I think Tunguska is open for just about any possible idea someone could have. Meteor, aliens, space god landed there, mystical anomaly, even man-made natural disaster. It's nice when history has real events which can fit within the genre so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Logue Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I don't use the CU. I have my own home-grown millieu but I've opened it up to ideas and suggestions from my players and others. And I have many characters that are homages to various DC and Marvel characters. I also snag an idea or character concept from the CU here and there. For instance, I use Los Asesinos in my world. But they are greatly redesigned and updated for 5th Edition. And I'm also considering doing something with CLOWN, but they have to be made more serious and much more sinister. My world has a much stronger mystical baseline than normal worlds, I suppose. Meanwhile, I haven't "used" Tunguska at all yet. Haven't even made any considerations on it. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? #3. I steal what I want and incorporate it into my own world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirViss Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I'm fairly new to GMing (in my first REAL campaign) so I am using the official CU. That doesn't mean that I won't change a few things that I disagree with, but I would rather avoid the problems of coming up with a full campaign world until I get more experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddHat Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? My campaign: 3. I have a very detailed time line and world history which I change around from time to time, and which steals my favorite bits from a long list of authors, including Farmer, Heinlein, and Zelazny. However, I fit many CU organizations and NPCs into my world; it saves me time. My wife's games: All are almost straight CU with only the smallest changes to suit her tastes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Liaden Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? Probably about 2.5 like Jeffrey Kramer. The broad framework of the current CU holds everything together, but I've woven in elements from 3E (and earlier), 4E, Dark Champions, New Millennium, and San Angelo. Thanks to conversion notes there are even elements from the SAS and M&M settings in there now. Looking it over I see that there's actually little pure homebrew, but many characters, organizations etc. have minor changes, a few are majorly changed, and a few more have been created by extrapolating from references in various books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh bunneh Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I have never in my entire life used a setting "out of the box." I even re-wrote dungeon modules back when I was a kid, in my 1st edition AD&D games. All the supers games I've run, I created whole-cloth with nothing from the CU or any other universe. However, after reading the new setting and organization books, I'm seriously considering changing my policy. There's some cool stuff in there, and it might be fun to run a game in the CU. Bill. (If only I could convince my group to play a supers game!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermit Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? Yes. Then I add my own stuff, but it's more like building from the barebones provided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEmerged Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? Somewhere between 1.75 and 2.5. I call it "NeoChampions" -- as in, "not exactly the Champions Universe" -- for a reason. The campaign has elements of both 4th & 5th Edition CU's, with a great deal of Aberrant terminology (although few characters), the far more realisitic treatment of a nova registration act from "Brave New World" (the game, not the novel), and more than just a few characters are one-off's from DC, Marvel, and Crossgen comics. Take the NeoChampion Champions for example. Current membership is at 6 -- Defender, Sapphire, Ironclad, Jaguar, Solitaire, and KnightSeeker. Witchcraft and NightDuck... er, Nighthawk exist as young "sidekick" novas (ages 19 and 18) right now, and they're not on the team. Similarly, the Protectors ("To Serve and Protect") are one of the most powerful and feared nova teams on the planet -- most of the core membership (which includes Victrix and Jo-Tan of the Freedom Squad) clock in anywhere from 850 to 1200 points. On the other hand "UNTIL" is just the military branch of Project Utopia, whose superteam is known as Team Tomorrow and spread in branches across the planet -- with a notable exception of the US and the semi-exception of Canada (whose Sentinels -- "Champions of the North" -- are considered affiliated with T2M). There is a nova supremacy group known as the Teragen. People with superpowers are known as "novas", who are said to "erupt" when they acquire their powers. All terminology from Aberrant, if you don't recognize the names. In addition to Millenium City and Vibora Bay (from CU), there's also a purely homebrew city named Micthendorf in North Carolina. I'm still trying to decide what to do about the fact that Black Mask 10 has been officially placed in Vibora City after I made the Black Mask legacy an important part of Michtendorf's history... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mhoram Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I'm somewhere in the 2.5 to 3 catagory. I use a fair amount of CU timeline, and pretty much most of the orginizations and major villians, but I also have a lot of other stuff from old campaigns, and other superhero RPGs in there - so my timeline is about 30-40% CU. It is the single biggest contributor, but is not the majority. I emphatically do not use the "supers come and supers go" thing from the CU - supers in my world date back to the late 1800s. I also have a major difference on where superpowers come from (in a very genral sense), that also explains why Earth is always being invaded (both dimensionally and mystically) that has nothing to do with the CU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmOz Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? 3: I steel what I like, get rid of the rest, and most things get a rewrite before they are introduced in my game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherio Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I guess I'm about a 3.5. When my supers campaign world first got seriously started, around '90, I used a lot of characters from the sourcebooks but none of the timeline. For quite a while now, it's been pretty much homegrown. As a result, there are some long-running villains and other NPCs that came from the CU, but most of the day-to-day stuff and newer stuff comes from my melon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Device Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? 4. Strictly homegrown. I might occasionally pull the mechanics from a character I see elsewhere, but I just can't get into running someone else's setting. I tried one campaign set in a pre-existing fictional universe, but I and my players found it unsatisfying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmichaeldet Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? 4. Started playing Champions before there was much of a CU to speak of, and now have more than enough history to sustain me, so I've never needed to use any CU stuff. - St. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silbeg Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I am mostly in the "3" camp, as I have been creating a world framework since before I had CU... Pulls from a lot of sources, but has as a core feature in the US the "Federal Paranormal Control Agency" (formerly under the BATF, but now in Homeland Security). History is incomplete at this time, but paranormals started appearing in the mid-50s (which caused a panic in the McCarthy-era US, thus the agency!). However, I am not beyond using any published materials as I see fit, though I also do tend to edit any character , etc., that I see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshka Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I'm running a Golden Age game that is starting out mostly CU. I am using a modified Hudson City as home base for my heroes, mainly because I don't feel like letting one of my players (east coast background and biggest mouth of the group) overrule me on what New York City is "really" like. Now, whether it stays CU is up to the players. I've got one (not the one mentioned above) who doesn't have the greatest grasp on Code Versus Killing, and he's running a brick. I have a personal side bet running on how many game sessions before his character offs a normal and tries to duck the responsibility. If the rest of the players back him, the logical governmental reactions will take us out of the CU timeline pretty quickly. If they bring him in for trial, we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeropoint Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I'm a 2. I use (well, WILL use, if I can ever get my players together) the Champions universe, with San Angelo added into southern California. Now I just have to figure out why all the supervillains are migrating from Michigan to California. Also, I reserve the right to make any additions, subtractions, or alterations as I see fit. I, too, am not really happy with the official CU explanation for Tunguska. Zeropoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Publius Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? I guess I would fall into a 3.5 or so. I use a homegrown world, but I do occasionally get stuff from the CU (some villians for example when I am rushed for time and cannot develop them myself, I ahve toyed with taking VIPER or DEMON into my game world however). The main reason is that I am running a low-powered superhero game and thus Dr. Destroyer really just does not fit. My universe is very DC:TAS-like, with more subtle powers and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertEdwards Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Re: Do you use the official Champions Universe? The PBEM game I GM uses a homebrew setting. I try to make homages to various comics and other appropriate source material. I incorperated material friends developed. The PCs are the big hero group in the setting, and run around Avenger level in power. There are three fictional nations: * Al A'Maraj (lifted from On the Edge/ Over the Edge) * Balistan, a second world nation working to develop an industrial base, located on islands in the Indian ocean. * Gilderham, a postage stamp European country best noted for heroic restance to the NAZI menace back in World War II, and for the weird science the Royal family has acess to. No SHIELD / UNCLE like international police or paramilitary agency. There is a US superagency, but they're not very effective due to interagency rivalries. Most every reasonably sized nation has a national government sponsered superteam. Some are just PR or maybe disaster relief types, others are super-thugs. A couple of more or less friendly alien fleets over head. One's a benevolent, noninterventionist, but occasionally bad tempered super-race of time travellers from the future who act as sponsors for the big PC superteam. Kind of like having the Guardians of the Galaxy move in with you. The other is a bunch of one PC's relatives who are refugees from the losing side of an ancient starwar. There was a thriving criminal traffic in clone slaves. This was suppressed by the PCs and other heroes. At least two demonic invasions have occured. The children of ancient mythical beings are trying to muscle into organized crime. Oh, and an immortal villain has spawned an eccentric family of covert superbeings. Something like Amberites meet the Adams Family meet the Wold Newton families. At least one PC is a relative that went public. - Robert Edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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